Farm support. Let’s hear some ideas?

[Sheepwheat]

Keep hearing that governments aren’t supporting agriculture. In general terms I agree, in that it is overlooked and few politicos have any tangible, hands on understanding.

I guess my question is then, what support are you as farmers looking for? What should it look like? Us style? Tit for tat subsidies?

Bucket made some interesting points in the other thread.

I may be looking at this wrong in that when I think of government support, I think billions in aid etc. Maybe I take the lack of support idea wrong then?

Program tweaking? Crop insurance tweaks?

So y’all who feel this way: you are now the ag minister. What do you push for? What do you do? Assuming you have the blessing of the pm and caucus to find real solutions to the problems you see.

Thank you.

[jazz]

Program tweaking? Crop insurance tweaks?

You first roll all those stupid programs like Ag Stab, Ag Recovery, etc into crop insurance and make it a bankable program that can be accessed in the current crop yr and have some tie to the cost of production and inflation.

Lump one time payments wont work because farmers will just buy land with that.

Then you get a couple of those govt jets in the air 24-7 securing trade deals for us. Think how many trade missions could have been done with the air travel Trudeau and climate Barbie do.

[ajl]

I would like to see crop insurance based on a revenue assurance model. That way I can be certain of being able to pay my bills. AB could of had that if they were able to deliver the price endorsement in an economic fashion but it was encumbered by high paid bureaucracy and they gutted the program so as to make it useless in typical government fashion. With revenue assurance, you get rid of the grade game. Does not matter what the grade is, so long as revenue targets are met.

[bucket]

I give some ideas later....but my sarcastic remarks are this....


1. Let guys sell cattle to the big operators..then when they are ****ed hand out 10 times as much as what would have been needed to help the small guy.

2. Let farms consolidate again and either have the hutterites/monnettes/any BTO of the day....do it all and when they sell out to the Chinese or corporate entity or CPPIB then use taxpayer money to support the foreign /
Corporate entity. ....

3. Do sfa and keep other industries on the taxpayers dime....

4. Ignore the issue....

5. Invest in RBA....

[Goodtime]

Not looking for a hand out but make Ag Stability simple and actually understandable....it should be set up for disaster years like this....and oh yes dont come back
the next year and make a lucky recipient pay it back if they receive a payment.

[farming101]

SK Crop Insurance Corporation has net financial assets of $1,652,796,000.

Maybe the premiums are too high or the payouts too low. Good place to start

[dalek]

Take the government money put into crop insurance and give it out as a voucher that growers can put towards public or private crop insurance as they see fit. Do something similar for livestock market insurance. Privatize FCC. Get out of the way.

[Rareearth]

Cost of production is too high for Canada to compete,
- end seed tax
- carbon tax
- allow imports of chemicals from usa, NAFTA free trade
- lower fuel taxes
- improve rail infrastructure, privatize high speed tunnel infrastructure ( Fed Conservative promise) energy corridor, if railways don’t deliver-pick up- etc sur charge the shit out of them if they want to use it ( haven’t put much thought to this yet)
- force more producer car loading sites
- encourage, taxabatements for Ag commodity industries, proteins, biodiesel, ethanol etc if we are too expensive and world doesn’t want it, then...
- raise Lammas,
- pension plans for farmers similar to universities, nurses, teachers ? It would be interesting to see the demographic make up for farmers and prediction for 10 or 20 years out how things are going to look.

[farmaholic]

SK Crop Insurance Corporation has net financial assets of $1,652,796,000.

Maybe the premiums are too high or the payouts too low. Good place to start

One and a half billion, with a B, ****ing dollars..... is that beyond a "prudent reserve"?

Oh yeah.... don't forget the Crop Insurance is heavily subsidized.... LMFAO

[jazz]

Let the americans take us over. Gonna happen anyway if skippy gets in again. We would be better off as a NA union to take on the rest of the world.

If skippy gets in again, he will be coming for capital gains next. There is no scenario where western ag will not be harmed by a liberal govt.

[farmaholic]

In an Industry where we(Producers) have to pay pretty much what ever ransom the Piper demands for inputs and services and accept what ever price(as distorted as it is at times) for the product you took huge risks to produce....how do you support that? Maybe its time for a reality check and total reset.

Let the ****er collapse!

Weather and politics is wreaking havoc.

[ajl]

Getting input cost down to US levels would help alot. Just saw an article about the northeast Texas wheat harvest. They had to use fungicide on some of this wheat and Tebuconazole was used extensively at a cost of !.30 per acre. That is the active in Folicur. What does that cost in canucistan? Last I checked around $11. This region of Texas grows alot of soft red winter as opposed to the HRW further west and yields after a rough start to the season last fall were coming in at a pleasantly surprising 70bu/ac.