Farm support. Let’s hear some ideas?

[farmaholic]

In an Industry where we(Producers) have to pay pretty much what ever ransom the Piper demands for inputs and services and accept what ever price(as distorted as it is at times) for the product you took huge risks to produce....how do you support that? Maybe its time for a reality check and total reset.

Let the ****er collapse!

Weather and politics is wreaking havoc.

[ajl]

Getting input cost down to US levels would help alot. Just saw an article about the northeast Texas wheat harvest. They had to use fungicide on some of this wheat and Tebuconazole was used extensively at a cost of !.30 per acre. That is the active in Folicur. What does that cost in canucistan? Last I checked around $11. This region of Texas grows alot of soft red winter as opposed to the HRW further west and yields after a rough start to the season last fall were coming in at a pleasantly surprising 70bu/ac.

[mustardman]

Kidnapp the Ritz cracker and hold him for Ransom ??

Yea I know NO One would pay.
But the Stupid Fool needs to know that no one needs Ag support Programs when times are Good, but
When times are bad we NEED them. DONT **** with them.

[AlbertaFarmer5]

One and a half billion, with a B, ****ing dollars..... is that beyond a "prudent reserve"?

Oh yeah.... don't forget the Crop Insurance is heavily subsidized.... LMFAO

Heavily subsidized as in, farmers received indemnities totalling 37% of the total premiums paid in during 2018 according to AFSC's yield magazine. Supposedly farmers paid 33.33% of the premiums, which almost covers the total indemnities. So where does all the subsidy money go? Is overhead really 63%, nearly twice what gets paid out?

[bucket]

Kidnapp the Ritz cracker and hold him for Ransom ??

Yea I know NO One would pay.
But the Stupid Fool needs to know that no one needs Ag support Programs when times are Good, but
When times are bad we NEED them. DONT **** with them.

Who got rid of GRIP ...was it goodale?????? .....imagine the fund that would have been there ...we could have sat this year out. ....

[Horse]

Realy whos fault is anyway. Mabey those 700K combines,500K sprayers,high price land,in a lot of cases because of greed or tax evadence tnen cry when the rain dosent come or price is low,mostly because of overextended greed ,there is a lot of operators out there who think they got the world in there arms but just cant quite get there fingers locked together to pick it up and run with it.
There was a time when most farmers went out to work for the winter to help the farm,and why not most people work 12 mo/yr so why should some only work 5 mo/yr. This is canada and only 1 crop per yr unless you are in livestock then you have a 12 mo job.

[agstar77]

Let the market rule if you cannot survive it must be your fault. This will provide a buying opportunity for corporate farms. Get rid of all those small inefficient operators. Most here don't want government interference, so be it.

[grassfarmer]

Don't think that's necessarily true agstar77, some of the big corporate outfits will be heading for the exit too if things hit a tougher spell. With regard to the developing drought situation I'd favour the Government doing nothing extra. Stronger businesses will survive, weaker ones might not - that's business. If you advocate for a bail out to farmers that would compensate all farmers equally regardless of merit, need and business ability isn't that what you all preached you were opposed to with the CWB? The irony is you (wrongly) call me a socialist.

[bucket]

Don't think that's necessarily true agstar77, some of the big corporate outfits will be heading for the exit too if things hit a tougher spell. With regard to the developing drought situation I'd favour the Government doing nothing extra. Stronger businesses will survive, weaker ones might not - that's business. If you advocate for a bail out to farmers that would compensate all farmers equally regardless of merit, need and business ability isn't that what you all preached you were opposed to with the CWB? The irony is you (wrongly) call me a socialist.

You are joking. ...


Evraz wasn't allowed to fail because no pipelines....it's Russian....

Morris industries didn't fail. ..

AGT couldn't fix the rail line ...
....and how about the irrigation districts that were built by taxpayers....then given away and now are getting 40 bucks an acre to grow lentils or other dryland crops....


You are ****ing kidding. ...

[grassfarmer]

No, I'm not kidding. Perfectly serious. Came here to get away from farming welfare payments. If you want to go down that road and welcome more Government control over your farm that's your right. Just be careful who you are calling socialist in future though.