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    #21
    Allow everyone to top up crop insurance and or whatever cattle / feed insurance right now . Also max it up to 100% not this b/S 80% .

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      #22
      Originally posted by furrowtickler View Post
      Allow everyone to top up crop insurance and or whatever cattle / feed insurance right now . Also max it up to 100% not this b/S 80% .
      No no no no you don’t get to decide the coverage level half way through the ball game. Fix crop insurance but don’t let people replay the 1st inning


      Iceman

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        #23
        Originally posted by iceman View Post
        No no no no you don’t get to decide the coverage level half way through the ball game. Fix crop insurance but don’t let people replay the 1st inning


        Iceman
        Lol
        Well the fix will be far too late ... as usual

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          #24
          Originally posted by furrowtickler View Post
          Allow everyone to top up crop insurance and or whatever cattle / feed insurance right now . Also max it up to 100% not this b/S 80% .
          Let new farmers start at their father's coverage levels rather than the paltry area average... I cannot get coverage @ 80% as a new entrant thats even equal to the old man who takes 60%.

          Went with private because I had 5 years of books to prove what I'm capable of... twice the coverage, for less than AFSC 80% coverage. And no bloody government subsidy on the private end. I think the "voucher" idea floated might not be a bad idea as well.

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            #25
            Originally posted by helmsdale View Post
            Let new farmers start at their father's coverage levels rather than the paltry area average... I cannot get coverage @ 80% as a new entrant thats even equal to the old man who takes 60%.

            Went with private because I had 5 years of books to prove what I'm capable of... twice the coverage, for less than AFSC 80% coverage. And no bloody government subsidy on the private end. I think the "voucher" idea floated might not be a bad idea as well.
            That said... private insurance is competitive right now as it is *for me anyway*, so there really wouldn't be much incentive for them to lower their rates unless AFSC was to make a leaner more efficient insurance system that they would have to lower to compete with.

            If they're already competitive, a voucher system would likely only be a subsidy to them, rather than us.

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              #26
              Eliminate all support programs and keep government involvement to a bare minimum. That includes eliminating traceability in livestock and making crop insurance/risk management programs 100% private. Also want taxes at minimum. No tax on any fuel for any person, whether they farm or not. I'll gladly pay my annual $10,000 private health insurance premium if income taxes are completely eliminated. I'd love to make as much money as I want and not worry about the Feds reaching for it.

              Yes, I am free-market capitalist through and through. It's these socialist scum that I have to compete with that **** everything up. Put everyone on an even playing field and let the cream rise to the top based on solid business sense. Those that don't make it will either have to become criminals or off themselves, because there is no welfare in my version either.

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                #27
                Originally posted by 15444 View Post
                Eliminate all support programs and keep government involvement to a bare minimum. That includes eliminating traceability in livestock and making crop insurance/risk management programs 100% private. Also want taxes at minimum. No tax on any fuel for any person, whether they farm or not. I'll gladly pay my annual $10,000 private health insurance premium if income taxes are completely eliminated. I'd love to make as much money as I want and not worry about the Feds reaching for it.

                Yes, I am free-market capitalist through and through. It's these socialist scum that I have to compete with that **** everything up. Put everyone on an even playing field and let the cream rise to the top based on solid business sense. Those that don't make it will either have to become criminals or off themselves, because there is no welfare in my version either.
                Careful, they are going to kick you out of whiney Socialville.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by 15444 View Post
                  Eliminate all support programs and keep government involvement to a bare minimum. That includes eliminating traceability in livestock and making crop insurance/risk management programs 100% private. Also want taxes at minimum. No tax on any fuel for any person, whether they farm or not. I'll gladly pay my annual $10,000 private health insurance premium if income taxes are completely eliminated. I'd love to make as much money as I want and not worry about the Feds reaching for it.

                  Yes, I am free-market capitalist through and through. It's these socialist scum that I have to compete with that **** everything up. Put everyone on an even playing field and let the cream rise to the top based on solid business sense. Those that don't make it will either have to become criminals or off themselves, because there is no welfare in my version either.
                  Poor chuck and a few others are going to have there feelings hurt when they read this 👍 lol

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by 15444 View Post
                    Eliminate all support programs and keep government involvement to a bare minimum. That includes eliminating traceability in livestock and making crop insurance/risk management programs 100% private. Also want taxes at minimum. No tax on any fuel for any person, whether they farm or not. I'll gladly pay my annual $10,000 private health insurance premium if income taxes are completely eliminated. I'd love to make as much money as I want and not worry about the Feds reaching for it.

                    Yes, I am free-market capitalist through and through. It's these socialist scum that I have to compete with that **** everything up. Put everyone on an even playing field and let the cream rise to the top based on solid business sense. Those that don't make it will either have to become criminals or off themselves, because there is no welfare in my version either.
                    That’s a nice thought but very stupid if all other countries we compete with support their farmers.
                    Every other industry is being supported to the hilt and even our industry the top levels get the support yes if everyone went on their own fine let’s compete but what happens when you get 3 or 4 years drought or flood in a row? Just let everyone sink? I guess so since that’s basically what the sask party and liberals and conservatives have done to the programs.

                    What subsidies to farmers are you talking about? That 5% pst on everything we buy more than kills off any little incentive there is.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by the big wheel View Post
                      That’s a nice thought but very stupid if all other countries we compete with support their farmers.
                      Every other industry is being supported to the hilt and even our industry the top levels get the support yes if everyone went on their own fine let’s compete but what happens when you get 3 or 4 years drought or flood in a row? Just let everyone sink? I guess so since that’s basically what the sask party and liberals and conservatives have done to the programs.

                      What subsidies to farmers are you talking about? That 5% pst on everything we buy more than kills off any little incentive there is.
                      Does a farmer actually get to pocket a subsidy? It just disappears as expenses rise greater then the subsidy ever was. In turn, risk goes even higher as the numbers climb and the farmer is worse off.

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