Back to the Old Days?

[bigzee]

Hope we don't lose to many young producers if we get a sustained period of "tough times".

As long as the dads keep stroking the cheques all will be fine.
Don’t forget these young fers will need a new jacked up truck by year end and a new 18k sled in the back.

[hobbyfrmr]

[QUOTE=bucket;413112]This crop is ****ed....in 1988 850 million helped generation farms. ...what's the equivalent today 2 to 3 billion.....


Now you can say a lot of farms are ****ed as well....

No government in Canada is going to help western Canadian primary producers....[/

Geezus dude, don’t sugar coat it. 🙂

[Sheepwheat]

Hope we don't lose to many young producers if we get a sustained period of "tough times".

As long as the dads keep stroking the cheques all will be fine.
Don’t forget these young fers will need a new jacked up truck by year end and a new 18k sled in the back.

Hate to say it, but I know of zero young guys doing it on their own dime.

[hobbyfrmr]

Hope we don't lose to many young producers if we get a sustained period of "tough times".

As long as the dads keep stroking the cheques all will be fine.
Don’t forget these young fers will need a new jacked up truck by year end and a new 18k sled in the back.

Keep in mind a lot of younger farmers did well in the high priced years. Some guys have only ever had to manage profit. We are making our best effort for profit, I am sure some neighbours have done well and will survive to farm another year. Plus they will negotiate write downs with lenders. FCC cannot afford to shut everybody down, that would be disastrous. It will be as quiet as possible so land values do not tailspin, major lenders will be able to report only a “slow down” or “moderate” decline as expected with a drought. If my most productive neighbours throw in the towel, there is big trouble. They have been keeping our land rents and purchase prices strong. The last thing we need in this situation is a devaluation in the only real equity we have.

[bucket]

Keep in mind a lot of younger farmers did well in the high priced years. Some guys have only ever had to manage profit. We are making our best effort for profit, I am sure some neighbours have done well and will survive to farm another year. Plus they will negotiate write downs with lenders. FCC cannot afford to shut everybody down, that would be disastrous. It will be as quiet as possible so land values do not tailspin, major lenders will be able to report only a “slow down” or “moderate” decline as expected with a drought. If my most productive neighbours throw in the towel, there is big trouble. They have been keeping our land rents and purchase prices strong. The last thing we need in this situation is a devaluation in the only real equity we have.

FCC is only going to push out the guys with equity.....some of the new BTOs have zero equity...and they are going to be left alone and they will let them ride.....

Equity sold is cash to make FCC look good. .....

We are heading to a world of tractor,sprayer and combine jockeys.....

[foragefarmer]

Sheep

"Hate to say it, but I know of zero young guys doing it on their own dime."

This seems to annoy you to no end, and bring it up on every given opportunity.

If parents are willing to help their children become a success in farming or anything in life, good on them.

I for one wish there were more parents in this county doing what they are suppose to do as parents.

Why do you take such issue with this?

[hobbyfrmr]

FCC is only going to push out the guys with equity.....some of the new BTOs have zero equity...and they are going to be left alone and they will let them ride.....

Equity sold is cash to make FCC look good. .....

We are heading to a world of tractor,sprayer and combine jockeys.....

I watch that everyday. I dont object to it. The “boys” are making good salaries for the area, they seem content and describe how they provide value to the entity. They just have to keep the land prices at the tip tip tippity top.

[bucket]

I watch that everyday. I dont object to it. The “boys” are making good salaries for the area, they seem content and describe how they provide value to the entity. They just have to keep the land prices at the tip tip tippity top.

Until the BTO can't make payroll.....

[Sheepwheat]

Sheep

"Hate to say it, but I know of zero young guys doing it on their own dime."

This seems to annoy you to no end, and bring it up on every given opportunity.

If parents are willing to help their children become a success in farming or anything in life, good on them.

I for one wish there were more parents in this county doing what they are suppose to do as parents.

Why do you take such issue with this?

I have zero issue with it at all. I’m sure if my dad had been here he would have backed me to the hilt, as I will if one of my kids farms. I am just explaining that most young guys have not done it on their own dime. Not a big deal at all.

I do believe it does lull kids into a false sense of security at times. At some point they gotta leave the titty. Do you see what I mean? Kids shouldn’t be on the titty yet at age 40, should they?

Just thinking. I will admit a small part of me does resent that I never had the chance to farm with my dad, with his blessing, his wisdom, and his backing. I think that is only natural. My attitude has been getting better over time. I am thankful for that, as it is not good to be hyper resentful... to that end, I fully admit I have been in a bad way in the past. Glad people can change and so on. Acceptance can take time.

Will be 30 years this Thursday my dad died, I miss him, and wonder what could have been??? I often daydream that he could visit the farm, give me some encouragement, tips, ideas, and just so he could see how crazy things have gotten! Lol

[walterm]

Sheep

"Hate to say it, but I know of zero young guys doing it on their own dime."

This seems to annoy you to no end, and bring it up on every given opportunity.

If parents are willing to help their children become a success in farming or anything in life, good on them.

I for one wish there were more parents in this county doing what they are suppose to do as parents.

Why do you take such issue with this?

Do people not think that parents/family help their kids start new businesses or buy homes in cities and towns? Lots of borrowed money or cosigned loans by parents to get kids started.