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    #16
    So the ice melt moves slow then chuck? Should I check back in 12 yrs?

    If this theory is so sound and backed by everyone then why does one look at a photo raise questions? You aren't intrigued by that photo? If the arctic warming 4x faster, then sea ice over warmer salty water should be disappearing very fast. Clearly its not. Should I pretend the photo doesn't exist?
    Last edited by jazz; Jun 13, 2019, 09:19.

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      #17
      Is there a politician running in the next federal election that believes climate change is a hoax? Seems people try to link these beliefs to certain parties.when in fact they all believe climate change is real just disagree on how to deal with it.Politicians know better to not follow and quote garbage groups.

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        #18
        Originally posted by jazz View Post
        So the ice melt moves slow then chuck? Should I check back in 12 yrs?

        If this theory is so sound and backed by everyone then why does one look at a photo raise questions? You aren't intrigued by that photo? If the arctic warming 4x faster, then sea ice over warmer salty water should be disappearing very fast. Clearly its not. Should I pretend the photo doesn't exist?
        No doubt you are smarter than NASA, NOAA, and all the other scientific organizations combined. LOL

        I am sure there is no evidence or science on this subject that can change your mind!

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          #19
          Why do I need to be smarter than NASA.

          I was told ice is going going gone, so I assume that when I look, it would be noticable, but then the ice matches 1980 measurements and I cant help but wonder why. I was also told the earth is rapidly warming, but we have had 10 frost events this past 2 months. Hmm. Inquisitive people ask questions. Low information people gulp down govt koolaid.

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            #20
            Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
            No doubt you are smarter than NASA, NOAA, and all the other scientific organizations combined. LOL

            I am sure there is no evidence or science on this subject that can change your mind!

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              #21
              No ice cover means higher evaporation rates, simple surface area. Evap will result in higher moisture inland, everywhere, if this sea water gets shit all over in the form of snow, I'm expecting the winters to be longer and glaciers to grow before the poor bastards on the coast drowning. Dept of highways is telling my local ferry operator the river is low due to farmers irrigating. No use arguing that it hasn't rained and it's been cold enough the snow melt likely hasn't completed in the mountains yet. Always blame the humans....

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                #22
                Originally posted by newguy View Post
                Is there a politician running in the next federal election that believes climate change is a hoax? Seems people try to link these beliefs to certain parties.when in fact they all believe climate change is real just disagree on how to deal with it.Politicians know better to not follow and quote garbage groups.
                And can you name one politician who is an accredited climate scientist, with the academic and moral authority to analyze the data and draw conclusions relevant to Canada?

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                  #23
                  Originally posted by jazz View Post
                  Why do I need to be smarter than NASA.

                  I was told ice is going going gone, so I assume that when I look, it would be noticable, but then the ice matches 1980 measurements and I cant help but wonder why. I was also told the earth is rapidly warming, but we have had 10 frost events this past 2 months. Hmm. Inquisitive people ask questions. Low information people gulp down govt koolaid.
                  If I have to explain why your observations on your farm in the past 2 months are not relevant to global climate science, then there is no hope that you will ever understand.

                  Frost on your farm is irrelevant except that it could be a symptom of erratic blocking weather patterns caused by climate change or normal variation.

                  The trends are clear. There may be some questions as to when certain things will happen but is very obvious we are on track to a warmer earth, declining ice, increasing sea level. All are proven fact as measure by credible climate scientists and their organizations. Give up on those points, you have lost.

                  Its good to ask questions but its not good to deny the overwhelming evidence and scientific that exists.

                  We still have people who believe the earth is flat just like we have people who deny human caused climate change.

                  I have asked that posters provide credible scientific evidence or statements by a current publishing climate scientist or their organizations that we are not on track to a warmer earth, declining ice, increasing sea level. It never shows up does it. Just a few feeble denial activist posts.

                  That says it all.

                  Not one Conservative Canadian politician say the science is wrong.

                  You might as well join the flat earth society!
                  Last edited by chuckChuck; Jun 13, 2019, 10:39.

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                    #24
                    Originally posted by AlbertaFarmer5 View Post
                    And can you name one politician who is an accredited climate scientist, with the academic and moral authority to analyze the data and draw conclusions relevant to Canada?
                    Politicians rely on professionals, specialist and experts to give briefings and advice.
                    How can any individual contain all the knowledge necessary to make decisions on every subject! LMAO

                    Your post is stupid and shows how little you understand.

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                      #25
                      You need to learn the scientific method chuck. We are not the ones making the claim there we do not have provide one shred of evidence to the contrary. But the other side must provide solid evidence for their arguement backed by real world observations in order for their theory to be accepted. They have not done that. Models wrong, visual evidence contradicts. Your models should be impervious to our query. As you can plainly see the ice is still there.

                      If climate change was in a court room it would be tossed out for lack of evidence.

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                        #26
                        What is the proper amount of ice for the Arctic to have in May?

                        What were conditions like in 1846 when Franklin got his ships as far as King William Island?

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                          #27
                          Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
                          Politicians rely on professionals, specialist and experts to give briefings and advice.
                          How can any individual contain all the knowledge necessary to make decisions on every subject! LMAO

                          Your post is stupid and shows how little you understand.
                          Ok i said i wasnt gonna respond to any more of your bizarre posts but want to be clear i did NOT LIKE your ridiculous post !
                          One should not read while bouncing in the sprayer
                          Sorry AF , really enjoy your well researched informative posts
                          Wish you could retract an unintended like!

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                            #28
                            Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
                            Politicians rely on professionals, specialist and experts to give briefings and advice.
                            How can any individual contain all the knowledge necessary to make decisions on every subject! LMAO

                            Your post is stupid and shows how little you understand.
                            Yes, unfortunately our gullible leaders are listening to such heavyweight climate science experts as Leonardo DiCaprio the actor, Bill Nye the science guy, David Suzuki the biologist, Al gore the crony capitalist politician, etc.

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                              #29
                              Quote Originally Posted by chuckChuck View Post
                              Politicians rely on professionals, specialist and experts to give briefings and advice.
                              How can any individual contain all the knowledge necessary to make decisions on every subject! LMAO

                              Your post is stupid and shows how little you understand.

                              LYAO,

                              OK, there are all kinds of truisms also, tested throughout time, one of them is:

                              “ He who pays the piper, calls the tune.”

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                                #30
                                Originally posted by AlbertaFarmer5 View Post
                                And can you name one politician who is an accredited climate scientist, with the academic and moral authority to analyze the data and draw conclusions relevant to Canada?
                                Politicians are suppose to do their homework.They do not have to be a farmer to make agriculture decisions.Or a doctor to make health care policies.They need to be informed.And every politician believes in climate change.And they are careful where their information comes from.They do not want to get caught repeating a Russian fake news.

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