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Originally posted by tweety View PostPresident of the Republic of Alberta. Along with all those manly white christian values, he will Make Alberta Great Again.
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Originally posted by AlbertaFarmer5 View PostYou're experiences are actually really valuable to this thread. Understanding Scotland and Brexit, and having lived in 2 provinces......
I can see some disillusionment or resentment with Federal Government treatment of western Canada on some issues but that's politics, that's neighbours, that's normal. The idea that there is any kind of political will or desire among the general population for separation is just not there. Where were the calls for separation during the Harper era? Non-existent because this is just a reaction to a Liberal Government unpopular with some in the west. It's not even on the radar of the majority of western Canadians.
When Canada Day rolls around you'll all be celebrating this great country - east and west together.
As we say in Scotland "Better Together".
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Do trends ever change? How does a person recognize the turn until it's right in your face? It might be easier to spot if you look at the long term popular vote for the "remain" or left? Over the "western seperation" faction. It's like a market, a failure to set a new high in any given year, opens the possibility of a new low. Taking out a low on a yearly level means you are in for a minimum 3 year "reaction". Sooo did the the last federal election produce a new high in voter support? If not, then the bottom end is opened up. If so then i would say there's full support for the federal govt as is and no fear of a decline.
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Originally posted by grassfarmer View PostYeah, but all you born here Canadians should have a better clue about what's going on in your own country. This is just fantasy league stuff - the impression most of you seem to be under that western Canada remains a white, right-wing farm economy is simply not realistic. You need to view a broader picture than your own postal code. It's a hugely urbanized population and becoming more so every day. MB just came off a long stretch of NDP Government, Alberta just had an NDP term, BC still does and as SF3 likes to remind us SK had decades of NDP. That does not look like the majority of the population in the west have ever been right wing and with immigration it will become less, not more so.
I can see some disillusionment or resentment with Federal Government treatment of western Canada on some issues but that's politics, that's neighbours, that's normal. The idea that there is any kind of political will or desire among the general population for separation is just not there. Where were the calls for separation during the Harper era? Non-existent because this is just a reaction to a Liberal Government unpopular with some in the west. It's not even on the radar of the majority of western Canadians.
When Canada Day rolls around you'll all be celebrating this great country - east and west together.
As we say in Scotland "Better Together".
I assume you have made some very wise and profitable land deals, going from Scotland to AB must have allowed you to increase your acreage by many multiples, and going from AB to MB when you did must have at least doubled or tripled the acreage for the same money, and MB values have only improved ever since, even more than AB. So I assumed you would be a good resource on where you think land values are going, and what factors could affect them.
But if you continue to believe that separation is somehow a right vs left or white vs everyone else issue, then you are obviously completely out of touch with the current situation in Alberta, where recent polling has support for separation at 50%, and even higher for discontent with Ottawa. The discontent does not respect party lines, race or religion. Pretending that it does is the fantasy.
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As to the answer to the original question of the thread , just ask anyone from south africa . When the rest of the world put sanctions on their country it brought SA to its knees . Their govt was powerless to stop the wave and now a lot of land is not even being farmed . A young fella here working for a local farmer is from there , still owns 1200 ac on paper but cant farm it . It is worthless . He just left and came here hoping for a better life , now he is scared that the same thing is happening here
I think we are screwed whether we seperate or not
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Land prices after separation? Who cares because its not going to happen.
Farming is really a challenge most places in the world, but there are still alot of people that would like to be farming in western Canada.
Most farmers support restrictions on foreign ownership. There is no appetite for letting american farmers and corporations own vast amounts of land. Let alone joining the USA. That is a pipe dream by the delusional.
As other posters have indicated this is just political ruminations by a few disgruntled sore losers who can't stand to let democracy work.
We have gone back and forth between Conservative and Liberal governments for ages and all we get is a bunch of whining and hyperbole from the hyper partisan fringe when the Liberals are in power.
And it is laughable how many posts there are about how bad it is in Canada. If this is bad, you guys need to read about or visit some developing countries and see what bad really is.
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Chuck like your support for the CWB you're so out of touch with reality it isn't even funny.
If the shit head wins things are going to change real fast. Wealthy and poor alike can't stand or take Trudeau and Quebec corruption. ITs a sickness that has happened since France lost.
It will happen and a negotiated deal with the USA, not joining but working together for both parties interest.
Grass you have no clue about the history of Canada.
This shit of Screw the west has happened since time began and the wealth has always been here. The only problem is we were part of Canada and not the USA.
The East elites hate us.
It's not just an attitude of a few western Canadians it a majority in thinking now.
Trudeau wins Alberta Sask and Manitoba and parts of Ontario and Bc will join and create something. Canada has failed and will change. It's going to happen.
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