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    #49
    Before chuck goes off the deep end, let me interject.

    In 2015 the provinces got together and made a cost share pitch to the feds to use unemployed oil workers to start taking on the orphan well problem. It was rebuffed. That would have done more for the environment than any carbon tax would. Nope, not even considered.

    The orphan well problem is nothing compared to Canadas past mining disasters. Who is cleaning those up?

    And the gas flaring is so spread out that its uneconomical to gather it all. You would have to run thousands of miles of underground poly to link them all together and since we don't like pipelines that's going to be harder now too. Also, the gas is wet and has lots of other constituents, it needs to be scrubbed and separated.

    Lastly there is NO CLIMATE CHANGE. ZERO, NADA. And you don't have to believe me, just look up Env Canadas site. Arctic ice up 31% this year in the middle of summer. There are lakes in N Sask still have ice on them. The forecast shows no 30 deg days well into the middle of July. Its all garbage.

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      #50
      Originally posted by jazz View Post

      And the gas flaring is so spread out that its uneconomical to gather it all. You would have to run thousands of miles of underground poly to link them all together and since we don't like pipelines that's going to be harder now too. Also, the gas is wet and has lots of other constituents, it needs to be scrubbed and separated.
      I don't think we can use the excuse that it isn't economic TODAY, to waste a valuable resource that future generations will desperately need tomorrow.

      As this gas glut gets worked through due to increasing uses for gas etc., the price differential per energy equivalent will close to the point where it will make sense to process and gather the gas. If the well doesn't make economic sense today including the cost of processing and gathering the gas, then wait until it does, the products aren't going anywhere, and no one except Chuck believes that demand for fossil fuels will disappear, so we need to extract all the oil ASAP while there is still a market. I know business isn't really that simple, but from a higher level point of view, we will all be better off in the long run, if we take the long view.

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        #51
        Originally posted by AlbertaFarmer5 View Post
        I don't think we can use the excuse that it isn't economic TODAY, to waste a valuable resource that future generations will desperately need tomorrow.

        As this gas glut gets worked through due to increasing uses for gas etc., the price differential per energy equivalent will close to the point where it will make sense to process and gather the gas. If the well doesn't make economic sense today including the cost of processing and gathering the gas, then wait until it does, the products aren't going anywhere, and no one except Chuck believes that demand for fossil fuels will disappear, so we need to extract all the oil ASAP while there is still a market. I know business isn't really that simple, but from a higher level point of view, we will all be better off in the long run, if we take the long view.
        I don't know how you can extract the oil and leave the gas in place. Gas is practically free these days so the income from the oil well would have to pay for it to be collected. Maybe compression and storage for now.

        Would people like some of these sitting near their homes?

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          #52
          Originally posted by jazz View Post
          I don't know how you can extract the oil and leave the gas in place. Gas is practically free these days so the income from the oil well would have to pay for it to be collected. Maybe compression and storage for now.

          Would people like some of these sitting near their homes?

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          The answer is that we don't extract the oil until the gas is also economical. We take a very short sighted view of our resources. We aren't the last generation who will want to improve our standard of living by extracting them, but we sure do act that way.

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