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    #25
    Ahhh,... Common sense.

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      #26
      Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
      The premiers are pushing for an exemption for Canada with Trumps Buy American law. Why is there so little criticism of Trumps protectionist policies that are hurting Canadian companies and farmers? I don’t understand why so many agrivillers are cheering him on when he is costing you and I and we are losing Canadian jobs? Yeah you don’t like Trudeau, but to completely to ignore Trumps attacks on our economy makes no sense. Whose side are you on folks?
      How has he targeted Canada? our govt is at fault because skippy and the minister of too tight dresses spied on trump, donated to Clinton and bashed trump to his face and then wanted a special deal.

      Trump is getting the best deals he can for his country. Not his fault we have incompetent children elected here.

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        #27
        Originally posted by bucket View Post
        Why buy deere ...they are the modern day CCIL....
        Harsh!

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          #28
          Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
          The premiers are pushing for an exemption for Canada with Trumps Buy American law. Why is there so little criticism of Trumps protectionist policies that are hurting Canadian companies and farmers? I don’t understand why so many agrivillers are cheering him on when he is costing you and I and we are losing Canadian jobs? Yeah you don’t like Trudeau, but to completely to ignore Trumps attacks on our economy makes no sense. Whose side are you on folks?
          Perhaps because many of us have accepted the fact that (Insert name of current or future US president's name here, regardless of party), attacks on Canadian companies and farmers soon will be a net positive for the regions who have joined the US. And the longer this goes on, and the worse it gets, the more we will be driven to that result. Unlike most of the instant gratification crowd, some are willing to accept short term pain for long term gain.

          Could you check the protectionist stance of all of the candidates in the previous election, and let us know which ones weren't promising to be much more protectionist, same for this next go around? As easy and fun as it might be to blame Trump for everything that is wrong in the world, he is the symptom, not the cause. And some analysts say he will likely be the least protectionist president they have in coming decades.
          Last edited by AlbertaFarmer5; Jul 12, 2019, 10:29.

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            #29
            Originally posted by AlbertaFarmer5 View Post
            Perhaps because many of us have accepted the fact that (Insert name of current or future US president's name here, regardless of party), attacks on Canadian companies and farmers soon will be a net positive for the regions who have joined the US. And the longer this goes on, and the worse it gets, the more we will be driven to that result. Unlike most of the instant gratification crowd, some are willing to accept short term pain for long term gain.

            Could you check the protectionist stance of all of the candidates in the previous election, and let us know which ones weren't promising to be much more protectionist, same for this next go around? As easy and fun as it might be to blame Trump for everything that is wrong in the world, he is the symptom, not the cause. And some analysts say he will likely be the least protectionist president they have in coming decades.
            We already have one of the largest bilateral trading relationship in the world. Which can be viewed as a strength and a weakness if protectionism takes over. Republicans used to be for free trade but Trump is going the other direction which will hurt economic growth here, there and all over the world. I thought most Agrivillers were free market capitalists? Apparently many favour government intervention! Quite the change of direction! LOL

            Will you still support Trump if he imposes tarrifs on your products and screws up your market?

            Don’t bother with any talk of joining the US as there is very little support for that. And so any justification that Trumps policies are going to benefit you in the future is a naive delusion.

            Name one serious politician who is running with a western separatist agenda? There are none so give up on your little fantasy!

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              #30
              Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
              We already have one of the largest bilateral trading relationship in the world. Which can be viewed as a strength and a weakness if protectionism takes over. Republicans used to be for free trade but Trump is going the other direction which will hurt economic growth here, there and all over the world. I thought most Agrivillers were free market capitalists? Apparently many favour government intervention! Quite the change of direction! LOL

              Will you still support Trump if he imposes tarrifs on your products and screws up your market?
              Never said I support Trump, I said nearly all of the candidates were protectionist. Have you done the research I asked? Who was less protectionist than Trump, and who is less this time around?

              And yes, protectionism hurts everyone. It amounts to getting a bigger piece of a smaller pie for the protectionist country, and fighting over progressively smaller pieces of a smaller pie for everyone else. I far preferred how it used to be, but neither of us have no input into US policy, so the best we can do is figure out how to make the best of a bad situation. But that doesn't mean it has to go back to where it was, or ever will. I am viewing these events as inevitable and looking at the only way we as an exporting region can survive.

              If you prefer to keep your head in the sand and pretend that Trump is just a bad nightmare, and in a few more months it will all be over and we can get back to how it's always been, then feel free.

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                #31
                Here's a scary thought..... what happens if Trump and the US taxpayer, pulls the navy out of all foreign waters and brings them home. Is an export based economy still feasible without the protection the US navy provides worldwide for free? Who has the resources militarily to provide security for all those Chinese and foreign flag freighters that are dodging tax and regulation. If the US navy comes home, globalised trade as we know it is over.

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                  #32
                  Agree if the USA pulls there toys home it’s a pirate 🏴*☠️ life for all.


                  I need 85 cent Canadian and I’ll transfer south a good chunk change again.

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                    #33
                    For cattle feeders needing Cdn dollar protection . . . .

                    Dec Cdn dollar 77 call option trading @ 0.84 cents
                    Dec Cdn dollar 77 1/2 cent call @ 0.64 cents
                    Dec Cdn dollar 78 cent call @ 0.47 cents

                    Cdn dollar contract are $100,000 Cdn in size.

                    USD remains too strong for American exports (IMO)

                    an opinion . . . .

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                      #34
                      Originally posted by macdon02 View Post
                      Here's a scary thought..... what happens if Trump and the US taxpayer, pulls the navy out of all foreign waters and brings them home. Is an export based economy still feasible without the protection the US navy provides worldwide for free? Who has the resources militarily to provide security for all those Chinese and foreign flag freighters that are dodging tax and regulation. If the US navy comes home, globalised trade as we know it is over.
                      Funny thing - there was globalised trade long before there was a US or US navy and it would continue long after even if the US ceased to exist. I don't get why so many think the sun shines out of their ass.

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                        #35
                        We all know how small the Canadian navy is

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                          #36
                          Originally posted by grassfarmer View Post
                          Funny thing - there was globalised trade long before there was a US or US navy and it would continue long after even if the US ceased to exist. I don't get why so many think the sun shines out of their ass.
                          Yes there was, and it involved nasty things called imperialism, and colonialism, and a constant state of war, culminating in an event known as WWII. Most of the world seems to prefer the type of world trade we have now, compared to that. Japan in the 20th century would be an excellent example of the contrast between the two states of affairs, and well worth studying.

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