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    #16
    Originally posted by TASFarms View Post
    Freeland giving millions to the Ukraine. No interest in helping Canadians.
    The number one priority for the people of Canada is to take the cheque book away from the children in October, I can't stress this enough. A few months ago someone on here listed the amount of money the Liberals have spent since they came to power, if they could update and repost those totals that would be great.

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      #17
      Originally posted by grassfarmer View Post
      While I agree with your latter point re farmers and complacency I disagree with the first. As a political movement the truck convoy was a failure and likely had zero influence on the subsequent decision. It barely made mainstream media and although some of you folks think the earth revolves around SK the terminus of the convoy wasn't Regina but Ottawa and it's arrival there was totally overshadowed by the SNC/JWR scandal.

      Regardless the farm vote in either country is insignificant.
      Of course a Trudeau supporting pro-carbon taxer would dismiss the most successful convoy Canada has ever had. 👎

      The USA farm states have a lot of say in the senate and get a lot of attention from Trump.....unlike with the Trudeau regime where SNC-Lavalin and Bombardier call the shots.

      North Dakota = 2 senators
      South Dakota = 2 senators
      Wyoming = 2 senators
      Montana = 2 senators
      Loony California = 2 senators
      Liberal New York = 2 senators

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        #18
        Originally posted by Oliver88 View Post
        Of course a Trudeau supporting pro-carbon taxer would dismiss the most successful convoy Canada has ever had. 👎
        Did it win that award on the grounds of being the first ever or has there actually ever been a previous one?

        I would say it failed on number of points. First of all the ties to racist/anti-immigrant cost it credibility and diluted the message - one of the original convoy groups in fact cancelled their whole convoy to disassociate themselves from extremists within the yellow vest movement. The convoy that did finally make it to Ottawa had to change their name from Yellow vests to United we Roll for the same reason.
        Secondly the convoy lacked participation as time wore on - sure it's easy to get a big crowds in trucks in Red Deer and perhaps it peaked in Regina at 7-800 by media reports - but then it fizzled. A local paper here was quoting only 60 vehicles passing through Virden, only 15 of which were Semis although they did say 200 in Ottawa. Seems like lots of fair weather supporters in their own backyards but not so many with the dedication to follow through to Ottawa where numbers were critical.
        Lastly, and no fault of the organisers or participants, was the timing to land up in Ottawa just when the SNC/JWR scandal broke. That was bad luck but there was no way to predict it but ultimately starved them of the oxygen of publicity when they needed it. You can talk oilfield anger any day of the week in the west, that's easy but it doesn't get you on the national stage. The fact they never even got a meeting with anyone from the Governing party after making it to Ottawa was an indication of failure.

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          #19
          Originally posted by grassfarmer View Post
          Did it win that award on the grounds of being the first ever or has there actually ever been a previous one?
          I realize you and your activist farm group the NFU are in favour of the “Leap Manifesto” and want to shut down our energy industry so you will find any weird reason to favour Quebec interests over western Canadians.

          Anyone who supports carbon taxes, Bill C-69, Bill C-48 and can’t comprehend why oil is better in a pipeline vs on rail......is out of touch with the best interests of prairie grain farmers.

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            #20
            Originally posted by Oliver88 View Post
            I realize you and your activist farm group the NFU are in favour of the “Leap Manifesto” and want to shut down our energy industry so you will find any weird reason to favour Quebec interests over western Canadians.

            Anyone who supports carbon taxes, Bill C-69, Bill C-48 and can’t comprehend why oil is better in a pipeline vs on rail......is out of touch with the best interests of prairie grain farmers.
            Oh, I thought you were going to answer the question you highlighted. Has there been a previous Canadian convoy to Ottawa to raise awareness of a particular issue?

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              #21
              Originally posted by Ache4Acres View Post
              The Donald screws up the market for many ag products in China with a trade war that nobody can win and then throws taxpayers money at US farmers to try to fix the problem! LOL

              At the same time Trump bullshits and says China is paying the tariffs in the US not US importers who pass the tariffs on to US consumers with higher prices.

              Canadian farmers are collateral damage in the trade war with China and some of you cheer him on!

              If this is the type of leadership you want then you deserve all the headaches.

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                #22
                27 billion and counting plus a disaster package in the states for farmers.....

                Meanwhile back in Canada ...Bilboo says it's too early to talk about funding for those hurt by Trudeau's incompetence with China
                ....

                Exact same thing but one country ...the USA....supports their farmers...

                While Trudeau buys the same pipeline twice ....and builds Montreal a rail line. ...

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                  #23
                  But Trump is doing a great job and you still want hand outs from Canadian taxpayers?

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                    #24
                    Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
                    But Trump is doing a great job and you still want hand outs from Canadian taxpayers?
                    It's not Canadian farmer's fault that China is not buying from us ...it's Trudeau's incompetence....

                    So you believe you can farm against US subsidies? ...if you have that kind of money ....why farm?

                    So here is one question ....Canada/Trudeau gave the Asia infrastructure bank 250 million and the Chinese will be buying pulse from the Ukraine via a railway built with that money....

                    You don't think that's odd?

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                      #25
                      Trump is making the USA great. He could care less about your market or your problems.

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                        #26
                        Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
                        Trump is making the USA great. He could care less about your market or your problems.
                        You are sort of thick .....wasn't talking about trump in the last question ...

                        ....Do you find it odd the amount of money Trudeau has committed to other countries with no ROI to the Canadian taxpayer like buying our exports?

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                          #27
                          Did you watch the G20 chuck. Everyone has their elbows up in there reworking the world trade order.

                          Did you see skippy showing off his socks to the fawning press. Yeah that is the reason right there we are fd.

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                            #28
                            Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
                            Trump is making the USA great. He could care less about your market or your problems.
                            You continue to show such clarity lately. This is exactly what we have been saying. As you correctly pointed out, the US no longer cares about us and our problems, or anyone else's for that matter. And that is a bit of a problem when they are our biggest, and in most industries, almost our only trading partner. So, we can wither away in obstinate disbelief waiting for a return to the good old days when they cared(spoiler alert, they won't come back, it will only get worse), or we can join them and be included in the making America great again portion of the program.
                            Last edited by AlbertaFarmer5; Jul 5, 2019, 00:37.

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                              #29
                              Originally posted by AlbertaFarmer5 View Post
                              You continue to show such clarity lately. This is exactly what we have been saying. As you correctly pointed out, the US no longer cares about us and our problems, or anyone else's for that matter. And that is a bit of a problem when they are our biggest, and in most industries, almost our only trading partner. So, we can wither away in obstinate disbelief waiting for a return to the good old days when they cared(spoiler alert, they won't come back, it will only get worse), or we can join them and be included in the making America great again portion of the program.
                              Short sighted. So you're going to want out when the democrats get back in. Then want back in when the republicans get back in is that it?
                              Trump is in a solipsistic coma, steer clear.

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                                #30
                                Originally posted by grassfarmer View Post
                                Well no - if you separate MB, SK, AB and BC the farm population of the new entity would be less than 3.5% versus the 2% it is now. Hardly a game changer. Looking out our farmhouse windows does not give a representative view of Canada.
                                Our own population with the extra #Billions we are presently constitutionally obliged to gift to other regions, will attract the kind of population we need to create wealth & prosperity. In 2019, we are financially obligated to support Illegals who are unskilled, uneducated and are border-jumping criminals. Looking at our tax bills for illegals and false refugees does not give an optimistic view of Canada. Pars

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