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Originally posted by grassfarmer View PostWhile I agree with your latter point re farmers and complacency I disagree with the first. As a political movement the truck convoy was a failure and likely had zero influence on the subsequent decision. It barely made mainstream media and although some of you folks think the earth revolves around SK the terminus of the convoy wasn't Regina but Ottawa and it's arrival there was totally overshadowed by the SNC/JWR scandal.
Regardless the farm vote in either country is insignificant.
The USA farm states have a lot of say in the senate and get a lot of attention from Trump.....unlike with the Trudeau regime where SNC-Lavalin and Bombardier call the shots.
North Dakota = 2 senators
South Dakota = 2 senators
Wyoming = 2 senators
Montana = 2 senators
Loony California = 2 senators
Liberal New York = 2 senators
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Originally posted by Oliver88 View PostOf course a Trudeau supporting pro-carbon taxer would dismiss the most successful convoy Canada has ever had. 👎
I would say it failed on number of points. First of all the ties to racist/anti-immigrant cost it credibility and diluted the message - one of the original convoy groups in fact cancelled their whole convoy to disassociate themselves from extremists within the yellow vest movement. The convoy that did finally make it to Ottawa had to change their name from Yellow vests to United we Roll for the same reason.
Secondly the convoy lacked participation as time wore on - sure it's easy to get a big crowds in trucks in Red Deer and perhaps it peaked in Regina at 7-800 by media reports - but then it fizzled. A local paper here was quoting only 60 vehicles passing through Virden, only 15 of which were Semis although they did say 200 in Ottawa. Seems like lots of fair weather supporters in their own backyards but not so many with the dedication to follow through to Ottawa where numbers were critical.
Lastly, and no fault of the organisers or participants, was the timing to land up in Ottawa just when the SNC/JWR scandal broke. That was bad luck but there was no way to predict it but ultimately starved them of the oxygen of publicity when they needed it. You can talk oilfield anger any day of the week in the west, that's easy but it doesn't get you on the national stage. The fact they never even got a meeting with anyone from the Governing party after making it to Ottawa was an indication of failure.
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Originally posted by grassfarmer View PostDid it win that award on the grounds of being the first ever or has there actually ever been a previous one?
Anyone who supports carbon taxes, Bill C-69, Bill C-48 and can’t comprehend why oil is better in a pipeline vs on rail......is out of touch with the best interests of prairie grain farmers.
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Originally posted by Oliver88 View PostI realize you and your activist farm group the NFU are in favour of the “Leap Manifesto†and want to shut down our energy industry so you will find any weird reason to favour Quebec interests over western Canadians.
Anyone who supports carbon taxes, Bill C-69, Bill C-48 and can’t comprehend why oil is better in a pipeline vs on rail......is out of touch with the best interests of prairie grain farmers.
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Originally posted by Ache4Acres View Post
At the same time Trump bullshits and says China is paying the tariffs in the US not US importers who pass the tariffs on to US consumers with higher prices.
Canadian farmers are collateral damage in the trade war with China and some of you cheer him on!
If this is the type of leadership you want then you deserve all the headaches.
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27 billion and counting plus a disaster package in the states for farmers.....
Meanwhile back in Canada ...Bilboo says it's too early to talk about funding for those hurt by Trudeau's incompetence with China
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Exact same thing but one country ...the USA....supports their farmers...
While Trudeau buys the same pipeline twice ....and builds Montreal a rail line. ...
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Originally posted by chuckChuck View PostBut Trump is doing a great job and you still want hand outs from Canadian taxpayers?
So you believe you can farm against US subsidies? ...if you have that kind of money ....why farm?
So here is one question ....Canada/Trudeau gave the Asia infrastructure bank 250 million and the Chinese will be buying pulse from the Ukraine via a railway built with that money....
You don't think that's odd?
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Originally posted by chuckChuck View PostTrump is making the USA great. He could care less about your market or your problems.
....Do you find it odd the amount of money Trudeau has committed to other countries with no ROI to the Canadian taxpayer like buying our exports?
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Originally posted by chuckChuck View PostTrump is making the USA great. He could care less about your market or your problems.Last edited by AlbertaFarmer5; Jul 5, 2019, 00:37.
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Originally posted by AlbertaFarmer5 View PostYou continue to show such clarity lately. This is exactly what we have been saying. As you correctly pointed out, the US no longer cares about us and our problems, or anyone else's for that matter. And that is a bit of a problem when they are our biggest, and in most industries, almost our only trading partner. So, we can wither away in obstinate disbelief waiting for a return to the good old days when they cared(spoiler alert, they won't come back, it will only get worse), or we can join them and be included in the making America great again portion of the program.
Trump is in a solipsistic coma, steer clear.
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Originally posted by grassfarmer View PostWell no - if you separate MB, SK, AB and BC the farm population of the new entity would be less than 3.5% versus the 2% it is now. Hardly a game changer. Looking out our farmhouse windows does not give a representative view of Canada.
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