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    Finally dynamic binning for Malt

    About time. Sorry cut and paste.

    ITERRA is introducing dynamic binning for barley across its network for the 2019-20 harvest.

    Expanding dynamic binning to barley in addition to wheat is part of Viterra's ongoing focus to improve its services through continued investment in its supply chain and passing efficiency gains and cost savings directly to grower customers.

    Viterra operations manager Michael Hill says growers will have the opportunity to have their barley upgraded with dynamic binning available for malting barley varieties Planet, Scope, Spartacus and Compass, as well as Feed1.

    "We are pleased to introduce barley dynamic binning following the success of wheat dynamic binning last harvest and feedback from growers asking for a similar option for barley," he said.

    "Our wheat dynamic binning provided significant value back to growers, about $6 million in the 2018-19 harvest, and we will again provide it this harvest for ASW1, APW1, H2 and H1 grades.

    "We've been able to provide a valuable service to growers while also maintaining market access for SA grain and continuing to meet the high standards of end use customer requirements.

    "Dynamic binning also had the added benefit for growers of creating efficiencies in the classification process and improving turnaround times at harvest due to less retests being requested."

    Mr Hill said dynamic binning provided growers with more flexibility to potentially access a higher grade for loads that were just outside of receival standards for protein, screenings and test weight in both wheat and barley, and also retention for barley.

    "In addition to dynamic binning, we also provide a 1 per cent tolerance for moisture above Grain Trade Australia receival standards on all wheat and barley deliveries, which has been in place for a number of years," he said.

    A dynamic binning upgrade will be given if the load falls within the specified tolerance zones, the load meets all other quality requirements including variety, contaminants and maximum residue limits and the higher grade segregation is available at the delivery site.

    Viterra made a significant upgrade to its IT grain management system in 2018, which enables the quality of grain to be monitored closely in real-time to ensure it meets outturn standards.

    "We provide the upgrade instantly at classification and the grain is available immediately for growers to transact," Mr Hill said.

    "If the rolling stack average for a grade falls below the GTA receival standards then dynamic binning will not be available until the average again meets grade receival standards. This is to ensure that grain is not compromised at outturn."

    #2
    Sorry blonde moment hoping guessing you guys know what stacked average is when grain is delivered but not really applicable to you guys as you deliver later and have no choice or opportunity to use stacked average advantage.

    If your clever and freight permits you pick and chosse your elevator all on public forum by vittera and cargill/awb each morning you can check average of each elevator.

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      #3
      This sounds good. But am surprised the GrainCo isn't taking the grain on spec, blending it themselves, and pocketing the spread.

      We know it happens with malt here but some guys' barley gets rejected after delivery and being co-mingled with other producer's barley.....how can that be? Bet they only target the "weak" customers! I would take samples upon delivery, split the sample, use "sample and seal bags" and each party has an agreed upon sample in case there is any disagreement or problems.

      Own your power!!!!!!

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        #4
        If you are talking about public delivery points where different companies store grain in the same facilities or producers can deliver there and retain unpriced ownership ....nope that doesn't happen here, but who knows how much horse trading happens at port position where multiple GrainCos own and operate out of the same facility......but by that time the GrainCos own the grain.

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          #5
          Almost midnight here saturday night pitter patter of light rain.

          If number one malt is say 8.5 to 11% protien and you deliver 11.1% it gets segregated as feed barley.

          But that will change with dynamic binning.

          Whole elevator average say let use 45,000 tonne of malt and average is 9.9% your load of 11.1 is gonna make a huge difference. So will get binned as malt 1 and paid as malt 1 but techinically is feed all depends on average.

          Same has been done with wheat for last 2 years.

          When we had single desk we had what was termed "cliff face pricing" difference between grades was enourmous but wheat board blended it and never passed it on. Since deregualtion things have loosened up and now with dynamic binning even better.

          Lots of the stuff done from single desk days is coming out as time passes and is released but nobody really gives a rats tossbag as we all knew it was happening.

          If they were squeaky clean and above board like your cwb things might have worked out better but history now never even discussed, missed about as much as soiled underwear.

          ps parden the pun "above board" lol

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            #6
            Originally posted by malleefarmer View Post
            Almost midnight here saturday night pitter patter of light rain.

            If number one malt is say 8.5 to 11% protien and you deliver 11.1% it gets segregated as feed barley.

            But that will change with dynamic binning.

            Whole elevator average say let use 45,000 tonne of malt and average is 9.9% your load of 11.1 is gonna make a huge difference. So will get binned as malt 1 and paid as malt 1 but techinically is feed all depends on average.

            Same has been done with wheat for last 2 years.

            When we had single desk we had what was termed "cliff face pricing" difference between grades was enourmous but wheat board blended it and never passed it on. Since deregualtion things have loosened up and now with dynamic binning even better.

            Lots of the stuff done from single desk days is coming out as time passes and is released but nobody really gives a rats tossbag as we all knew it was happening.

            If they were squeaky clean and above board like your cwb things might have worked out better but history now never even discussed, missed about as much as soiled underwear.

            ps parden the pun "above board" lol
            Can the scenario work against you too if your grain meets spec but elevator average is poor would you be downgraded?

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              #7
              Originally posted by GDR View Post
              Can the scenario work against you too if your grain meets spec but elevator average is poor would you be downgraded?
              If your grain still meets malt spec will be malt on when your just out either way but get your thoughts altenatively check each elevator and take it to another one. does happen with wheat

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                #8
                Originally posted by malleefarmer View Post
                Sorry blonde moment hoping guessing you guys know what stacked average is when grain is delivered but not really applicable to you guys as you deliver later and have no choice or opportunity to use stacked average advantage.

                If your clever and freight permits you pick and chosse your elevator all on public forum by vittera and cargill/awb each morning you can check average of each elevator.
                You mean elevators there publicly post their averages for things like protein, moisture, oil, falling number, etc?

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Blaithin View Post
                  You mean elevators there publicly post their averages for things like protein, moisture, oil, falling number, etc?
                  Yes done daily

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                    #10
                    So here, with wheat more particularly, there's incentives and discounts per .1% of protein. If we apply that idea to your malt example...

                    Would producers get full malt price for 11.1% barley or would they be discounted for each point off of 11% that they go? They'd still be getting higher than feed, but the farther away from ideal the farther away from full malt price?

                    Or as long as their specs keep it within the tolerance of the shipment they get full price?

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