Finally dynamic binning for Malt

[farmaholic]

Wheres bucket? He would have some interesting comments.

[malleefarmer]

So I think we're getting the idea of what you're saying and it sounds like it would be a nice option, especially in lieu of contracting.

Wondering how it would work with grades though. Does Australia wheat get graded on a similar system to ours? I'm trying to remember if I've ever heard of different grades and I'm drawing a blank...

Here we have 1CWRS, 2CWRS, 3CWRS and feed as an example. If you had an elevator wanting to ship out 2CWRS and had mostly 1CWRS in store, would your dynamic binning mean producers could spot deliver 3CWRS and get 2CWRS prices? If that makes sense hah

Keeping in mind when it comes to grades the main degrading factors here are frost and mildew as subjective factors, other things like sprouts, heated, ergot, etc could be more easily applied to the dynamic binning I think.

depends how close the 3cwrs is to 2cwrs if its out by 0.1 of a % protien yes potentially.

Another side issue on all this the flip side almost is local flour mills almost prefer to buy from farmers direct or have the own elevators or a segregation of there own at local elevator along side all the others. They like tighter specs.

[Blaithin]

depends how close the 3cwrs is to 2cwrs if its out by 0.1 of a % protien yes potentially.

Another side issue on all this the flip side almost is local flour mills almost prefer to buy from farmers direct or have the own elevators or a segregation of there own at local elevator along side all the others. They like tighter specs.

Ah, see that's the crux of our grading, protein has very little bearing on a 1, 2 or 3 CWRS. If it drops under 10% protein then it can't be a 1CWRS, otherwise protein has nothing to do with grade, just end use specs. In all the talks I've had with Aussies and UK grain producers I've never got the feeling that your systems rely heavily on subjective factors like ours does. You talk about mildew on grains to a UK guy and all they know is powdery mildew on the leaves of the plant, they have no clue about it on the grain and causing a downgrade. One day I'd like to talk to people in person and view their grains while showing ours. Maybe that way it would be easier to understand than through text.

It's an interesting idea to have legislation that requires the elevators to say what they have in store and the averages.... Here it is almost treated like top secret information.

[malleefarmer]

Cant remember exact timeline but we had "partial deregualtion" for about 5 to 7 years domestically and permits were issued for exports but few were granted such was AWB stranglehold.

Whilst this was going on farm groups pollies grain expoters farmers everyone tried to make sure that when full deregualtion happened its was kind of orderly.

No guarantee it was gonna happen but when everyone was satisfied that protocols etc were in place it went through parliment resoundingly.

Maybe you guys jumped in too soon and should have waited a extra year or two at times seems like a dogs breakfast over there.