Attention Bourgault, Seed Hawk, Morris, etc.

[Guest]

Three new quantum around here....one was rejected....another had a lot of problems
.....

Good deal for dealer but they are going backwards. ...tanks are garbage...

Turn to sharp and you wreck back wheels of drill.....

Did they change the tanks ? We have a 3 yr old 9450 and really like except for the head banging
Curious tho , is there anyone on here that seeds with a 9000 series tank and a maxim 2 drill ??
Ever since we got this new tank one far right manifold skips a little in oats , barley and canary , just kinda lighter and heavier
Morris has been out several times , checked out entire tank air delivery system , we changed manifold and hoses and cant find the problem
Tried more wind to no avail ?
This pic is of the worst extreme , most not near this bad
Anyone have any ideas ?

[Guest]

Pulling with an STX 440 , 40 gal pump

[farming101]

The pic shows only 3 rows giving trouble? I have no idea

[BreadWinner]

We had similar issues with our 435 stx, the 40 gal pump just doesn’t push enough fan for the amount of product going out. Are you running your return oil through the breakaway? It will also slow down the oil flow. Starts backing up and surging out the far runs. Bought a 500 quad with bigger pumps, what a difference.

[BreadWinner]

The metering wheel could also be stripped on the shaft and stopping under load.

[GDR]

Pulling with an STX 440 , 40 gal pump

Might sound crazy but maybe too much air (velocity). Don't have any experience with Morris but if those 3 runs are on a separate manifold could there be a pressure increase from downsizing piping? I've seen guys run air too high and whole field / drill looks like that, every time the roller segment releases seed it goes in spurts instead of even flow.

[Guest]

We had similar issues with our 435 stx, the 40 gal pump just doesn’t push enough fan for the amount of product going out. Are you running your return oil through the breakaway? It will also slow down the oil flow. Starts backing up and surging out the far runs. Bought a 500 quad with bigger pumps, what a difference.

Thats what morris is saying
Prob is the issue
We can update pump to 50 gal for a couple thousand
Yes case drain and both press and return all go through breakaways
Should try pump update i guess

[Guest]

The pic shows only 3 rows giving trouble? I have no idea

Just in that pic , but it is that whole 9 hole manifold

[Guest]

Might sound crazy but maybe too much air (velocity). Don't have any experience with Morris but if those 3 runs are on a separate manifold could there be a pressure increase from downsizing piping? I've seen guys run air too high and whole field / drill looks like that, every time the roller segment releases seed it goes in spurts instead of even flow.

No tried low air high air no diff
Its always that same manifold
Doesnt do it all the time and doesnt ever do it in canola wheat or borage (super light large seed)
Run anywhere from 4200 -4600 rpm
55 ft drill , one fan
Didnt ever do it with the older 336 morris tank

[Guest]

[QUOTE=BreadWinner;416794]The metering wheel could also be stripped on the shaft and stopping under load.[/QUOTE
Have checked wheels , theyre good
Done it from brand new

[farming101]

If it is a hydraulic flow problem check which remote you are using. It makes a difference.

Should have lots of capacity especially when going straight down the field.
Proper tank pressure/leaky lid? No doubt you have checked.

Also, check the back plenum where the dampers are. Maybe something is loose inside. Hard to see inside those things.
The dual shoot setup with the flapper valves must be properly adjusted.

[makar]

Same length of primary hose?

[farmaholic]

I like 101's diagnosis of it possibly being an air leak, especially specifically to that one primary run. What is odd is it doesn't do it consistently across that one drill (secondary) manifold all the time. Does the tank(primary) manifold have flappers/diverters in it? If there are diverters is there ever grain behind them if you're metering the seed out of a one of the front tanks?

Think about the density of canola and canary compared to wheat and oats. Wheat should be harder to move than oats but do you change air speeds for those two?

Are you double shooting fert? Liquid, dry, or ammonia in fall. Any dry with the seed?

Any kinks in the primary hose?

[AlbertaFarmer5]

Not sure how easy it is on the Morris, and you likely have already tried this, but swap hoses from manifold to manifold. Or swap which product is in which tank if possible. The hard part of diagnosing that is the evidence doesn't show up till 10 days later, so trial and error is a slow process.

Have you tried shutting down the fan before product finishes flowing, then check if any hoses have an accumulation in a low spot or sag? Might be building up until almost plugging and being forced out, I've had similar happen with canola at very low air volumes on hills.

[sumdumguy]

Same 3 runs all the time?