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    #13
    The horses are the ones that are put into danger.Type of race horses used were not meant for this.They were bred for speed not ranch use.Chuck guys go to the track and claim horses to put on the chucks.

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      #14
      I woulda never took chucky for the rodeo type

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        #15
        Originally posted by newguy View Post
        Brother was on the world equine association.They talked about the Chucks and how it could be made safer.Chucks are dangerous .they run ex race horses that were not meant to be be driven.Race horse guys hate it when their horses get pick up to pull a chuck wagon.In the end it was said maybe the chucks are too dangerous situation to put horses into.
        Pure conjecture on your part and why you bring up an old topic? The FEI sanctions combined driving where horses of all breeds are used. Any horse can be driven. Probably easier for a horse to pull weight than carry it anyway. Some track rats hate seeing their horses going to the wagons out of pure jealousy because they f’ed them up or couldn’t get them to run but wagon guys could get them fixed and performing better. Far as FEI folks go it’s a completely different world from anything to do with western equitation or western sport. Wonder how many horses break down from jumping? How many 2 year olds break down on the track in spring training? Yes wagon racing is dangerous. No denying it but for another horse group to start throwing stones you better be sure you leave your glass house.

        Wagon racing is dead in the water anyway. Calgary is slowly killing the sport through attrition which causes the associations to whither. Between rising costs and less spots in Calgary there isn’t any chance to break even. Most newcomers have no chance to improve and get a spot in Calgary. 2024 marks 100 years of wagon racing. I wouldn’t be surprised that’s the last year. It’ll keep chunking along on the reserves where there’s always money for the natives to do it and probably some of the bigger Alberta centres but otherwise it’s done.

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          #16
          Originally posted by newguy View Post
          The horses are the ones that are put into danger.Type of race horses used were not meant for this.They were bred for speed not ranch use.Chuck guys go to the track and claim horses to put on the chucks.
          Again you are talking out of your ass about this. We never claimed a single horse. Bought lots privately from the trainers. Claiming does happen but majority are usually bought privately at the end of the season. Sure thoroughbreds are bred for speed but training and natural aptitude is more conducive to their abilities to perform varied tasks. Percherons are work horses but a shit ton of saddle horses back in the day as well as war horses and rcmp mounts were thoroughbred Percheron cross. You know sweet f all and here to just start a fight as usual.

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            #17
            Simply another mindless reply by new guy , but unfortunately he /she / it represents a growing number of clueless Canadians.
            It’s unfortunate how the misinformation is really getting spread , much like carbon .
            I would much rather ride a chuckwagon than walk downtown North Battleford any given day or night.
            Let alone my children or anyone’s grandchildren.
            Lets all just play video games and leave animals out to the wild pastures …..
            Last edited by furrowtickler; Nov 30, 2023, 00:26.

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              #18
              Originally posted by furrowtickler View Post
              Simply another mindless reply by new guy , but unfortunately he /she / it represents a growing number of clueless Canadians.
              It’s unfortunate how the misinformation is really getting spread , much like carbon .
              I would much rather ride a chuckwagon than walk downtown North Battleford any given day or night.
              Let alone my children or anyone’s grandchildren.
              Lets all just play video games and leave animals out to the wild pastures …..
              This individual more than anything is trying to start a fight on the commodity board. They know absolutely nothing about horses other than what they’ve been. Shouldn’t have even got any more invested in this pissing match but when someone spews complete bullshit they need to be corrected.

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                #19
                Yea I agree. , don’t know why I waste my time with Chuck/newguy

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                  #20
                  Originally posted by WiltonRanch View Post

                  Again you are talking out of your ass about this. We never claimed a single horse. Bought lots privately from the trainers. Claiming does happen but majority are usually bought privately at the end of the season. Sure thoroughbreds are bred for speed but training and natural aptitude is more conducive to their abilities to perform varied tasks. Percherons are work horses but a shit ton of saddle horses back in the day as well as war horses and rcmp mounts were thoroughbred Percheron cross. You know sweet f all and here to just start a fight as usual.
                  What is claiming?

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                    #21
                    Originally posted by grassfarmer View Post
                    Agree with Farma on the calf roping - That's the one that shouldn't be in the public eye in my opinion. Hard on the calves and not much of a sport. If you wan't to ride bulls, broncs or milk wild cows go right ahead.
                    Not sure why we are commenting on a 4 year old thread by posters no longer with us.
                    But to say that calf roping isn't much of a sport is grossly uninformed.
                    I can't rope, and I haven't even rode a horse for years, but I have infinite respect for the skill required to rope a running animal from the back of another running animal.
                    I would argue that it takes far more talent than any supposed sport involving balls, pucks, or fighting a fellow human.
                    My neighbors who do roping for real for treating animals on pasture tells me how rare this skill is, even among experienced cowboys.
                    ​​​​​​That doesn't make it any easier on the poor calf. But in the real world, getting his neck jerked, is still preferable to dieing of pneumonia or infection, or suffering with footrot etc.

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                      #22
                      Originally posted by caseih View Post

                      What is claiming?
                      In horse racing some races are claiming races. What that means is there is a set value for horses put in that particular race which other trainers can put the money in the box before the race to purchase a horse they want. After the race the trainer takes possession. The clincher is if the horse breaks down or dies the horse is still theirs. No one likes getting a horse claimed if they have potential to go on to better stakes but it’s the name of the game. For the troll to say trainers hate wagon guys claiming horses is laughable as it takes a trainer to claim a horse. End of race season trainers are glad to part with horses as it’s expensive to winter an underperforming horse with no guarantee they’ll recoup the cost.

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                        #23
                        Originally posted by AlbertaFarmer5 View Post

                        Not sure why we are commenting on a 4 year old thread by posters no longer with us.
                        But to say that calf roping isn't much of a sport is grossly uninformed.
                        I can't rope, and I haven't even rode a horse for years, but I have infinite respect for the skill required to rope a running animal from the back of another running animal.
                        I would argue that it takes far more talent than any supposed sport involving balls, pucks, or fighting a fellow human.
                        My neighbors who do roping for real for treating animals on pasture tells me how rare this skill is, even among experienced cowboys.
                        ​​​​​​That doesn't make it any easier on the poor calf. But in the real world, getting his neck jerked, is still preferable to dieing of pneumonia or infection, or suffering with footrot etc.
                        Yet you decided to make a comment and singled out Grassy's post.

                        Grassy out witted you in every debate and as you mentioned has been gone from Agriville for several years now, but you just can't let it go.

                        Regarding your sports comment did you participate in any organized sports?​


                        Last edited by foragefarmer; Nov 30, 2023, 19:41.

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                          #24
                          Thanks for the explanation Wilton
                          I really respect anyone that participates in this sport, always interesting!

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