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    #41
    To me the simple fact primary Ag production is insurable portrays the insane risk taken to produce an essential of life and to keep those people stupid enough to take that risk in the game if something disasterous happens!

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      #42
      Originally posted by tweety View Post
      Now you're just being ridiculous, most businesses can't just 'set their prices'. Saying a ski hill can just make snow is like saying you can just make rain.

      Farming has become next to risk free with all the subsidies and welfare payments, programs, purple gas in the Escalade, farm plates on the car, gst back, and a million other things most family businesses could only dream of.

      So quit your whining.
      Risk free you say, subsidies, welfare payments. Almost choked on my tea lol. If I look at cost per acre to grow canola with everything including rent, labor, depreciation all in it is well in excess of $300 dollars. Of those costs we have dyed fuel, crop insurance and gst back(all businesses get that on eligible expenses). My crop insurance is $25 an acre on canola and fuel costs last year across the farm worked out to roughly $16 an acre. So if my total cost to grow canola is $350, and my subsidized inputs are $41 then 11.7% of my inputs are subsidized. As far as GST there is no gst on seed, spray, equipment, fertilizer. As far as skiing the closest ski hill to me used to $20 a day when I was young, 35 years ago, now roughly double that and they are on a river and in years of no snowfall make their own snow. Tweety take the chip off your shoulder and enjoy your day.

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        #43
        Originally posted by Hamloc View Post
        Risk free you say, subsidies, welfare payments. Almost choked on my tea lol. If I look at cost per acre to grow canola with everything including rent, labor, depreciation all in it is well in excess of $300 dollars. Of those costs we have dyed fuel, crop insurance and gst back(all businesses get that on eligible expenses). My crop insurance is $25 an acre on canola and fuel costs last year across the farm worked out to roughly $16 an acre. So if my total cost to grow canola is $350, and my subsidized inputs are $41 then 11.7% of my inputs are subsidized. As far as GST there is no gst on seed, spray, equipment, fertilizer. As far as skiing the closest ski hill to me used to $20 a day when I was young, 35 years ago, now roughly double that and they are on a river and in years of no snowfall make their own snow. Tweety take the chip off your shoulder and enjoy your day.
        That's my point Hamloc - all your costs in you are at $350 - if you suffer total loss you essentially get your money back don't you? If you hadn't crop insurance, laid out $350/acre, had a total loss then you've lost $350/acre. That's the scenario that puts guys out of business and crashes land prices.

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          #44
          Article in past week Western Producer says AgGrowthCoalition is meeting this week in Quebec City.
          Coalition includes major grain and general farm organizations.
          For past year, government officials have been looking at BRMs and are to report next week.
          Sask official previously said he did not expect changes during five year term of Canadian Agricultural Partnership ending March31, 2023.
          Let’s wait to see what, if anything, comes out of this meeting.

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            #45
            If all the other businesses are so much better, why farm? Do you just like complaining that much?

            Or maybe because its a rock solid way of accumulating wealth.

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              #46
              Originally posted by tweety View Post
              If all the other businesses are so much better, why farm? Do you just like complaining that much?

              Or maybe because its a rock solid way of accumulating wealth.
              Why do irrigators get 40 bucks an acre that basically have a guaranteed crop with government funded infrastructure while dryland farmers hit a snag and have SFA?????

              And the 25000 farmers in this province provide more economical drivers than all the irrigation combined...

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                #47
                Originally posted by tweety View Post
                If all the other businesses are so much better, why farm? Do you just like complaining that much?

                Or maybe because its a rock solid way of accumulating wealth.
                Then EVERYONE should be doing it. Or everyone would want to do it.
                Hardly. Most people don't have the balls or intestinal fortitude for the risk. But according to some people there is no risk.

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                  #48
                  It’s pretty easy to make less than your insured for. I’ve done it more than once

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                    #49
                    I’ve paid a lot more into crop ins. Then I’ve gotten from them. Same goes for most farmers around here except a select few. I have never got handouts, those were just part payments of 500 useless ndp union government employees giving my grain away. Farming has improved big time since cwb gone.👍

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                      #50
                      Average insurance coverage is 250 bucks an acre can’t grow canola every year on every acre. If you ve had drought or flood for 3 or more years you’re fkd high premium no coverage. That’s doing all of this at a larger scale also. Put in buying a couple quarter of land for 3, 4 or 500,000 and then do the math on what your cost is to farm if you don’t farm 5,000 acres or more. Look around who’s farming and who really owns the land.

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