So...there you have it...Ag ministers promise no immediate help

[bucket]

My venture is completely internal. There will be no trade barter with the lamb we sell. Black swan event? I guess a ewe or two may die? Just teasing you. I am under no illusion that my ventures may have problems, but I am pretty insulated from them as the model stands today.

I agree with getting nowhere arguing with each other, but I drive around and see the mini grain terminals, ahem, I mean rows of enormous hopper bins with multi million dollar machinery sitting out front on nearly paved yards, and my sympathy drops like a rock. Hard to get my head around subsidizing people’s choices you know?

I do have sympathy for those with real problems. I have had and continue to have struggles. I know the issues when things are tight. Not tight as in taking back a half million of fungicides, but tight as in how are we going to pay the power bill. That kind of tight is concerning and sad.

Good then,,, we are on the same page...

The rows of bins ....I have to comment on....its a downloading of graincos responsibility that too many have been happy to oblige them....

If it didn't make sense to have elevators every 6 miles ....why should it make sense for farmers to build bin yards larger that the old wooden elevator...duped again.

[farmaholic]

I think we all need to cut each other some slack.

I will point out what I have in the past. "Not everyone started at the same position at the starting line. Some were on it, some ahead of it and some behind it."

Then throw in all the different circumstances we've all encountered during the race.

Respect that.

[jazz]

Farming is a business but its a unique business. We arent making iphones here. Its a necessity of life we are provide and we get little respect for it. I can live without the respect, but I wont do it for free. And yes it is tied up with who you are. You live and breath it 24-7 because you live at your place of work and so does your family.

[farmaholic]

Farming is a business but its a unique business. We arent making iphones here. Its a necessity of life we are provide and we get little respect for it. I can live without the respect, but I wont do it for free. And yes it is tied up with who you are. You live and breath it 24-7 because you live at your place of work and so does your family.

Living where work and working where you live......some people "need" to get away!

[the big wheel]

Some of us remember cotton, so I'm just going to post this. If you need help, please seek it out. At the end of the day farming is a business, its not who you are - it doesn't define you, rather its just what you do. Adjustments can be made if required, but know life is precious.

The farm stress hotline is Toll Free: 1-800-667-4442

Their site is http://www.mobilecrisis.ca/farm-stress-line-rural-sask http://www.mobilecrisis.ca/farm-stress-line-rural-sask

There is also the farm debt mediation services, http://www.agr.gc.ca/eng/programs-and-services/farm-debt-mediation-service/?id=1536081857309 http://www.agr.gc.ca/eng/programs-and-services/farm-debt-mediation-service/?id=1536081857309

If you need help, talk to someone. Reach out. For any farmer struggling, you're not alone. There are people that care about you and want to help.

Thanks I guess for your concern, it is a serious issue and some need it. But I m certainly not there. Standing up to stupid people that think they are smarter than you or bullshitting their way through an argument I don’t back down from that crap. It’s a major problem within our own industry and the politicians and ag groups use those fools against the rest of us.

It was quite fitting the government release provincially on how to help us farmers through the drought was a few lines about moving the greenfeed deadline back a couple weeks and taking a bigger cash advance and then most of the page was the farm stress line. My reply to you the government is your bullshit response to the situation is why you needed to highlight the farm stress line in the first place.

There’s a few on here also when the September if not August frost comes you’ll be singing a different tune I m sure that’s when reality will hit.

[LEP]

And get what In return? More control by the line companies? Less price collusion? Less cgc and more non payment for selling grain.
What a great choice we have.

So I guess your right i see articles everyday about all the the policy coming from the Liberals reducing the control of line companies, addressing collusion more CGC and protection of farmers selling grain.

If you questioned either of their Ag ministers about any of those topics you would get a Trudeau answer.

They don't even know what they don't know.

[furrowtickler]

Thanks I guess for your concern, it is a serious issue and some need it. But I m certainly not there. Standing up to stupid people that think they are smarter than you or bullshitting their way through an argument I don’t back down from that crap. It’s a major problem within our own industry and the politicians and ag groups use those fools against the rest of us.

It was quite fitting the government release provincially on how to help us farmers through the drought was a few lines about moving the greenfeed deadline back a couple weeks and taking a bigger cash advance and then most of the page was the farm stress line. My reply to you the government is your bullshit response to the situation is why you needed to highlight the farm stress line in the first place.

There’s a few on here also when the September if not August frost comes you’ll be singing a different tune I m sure that’s when reality will hit.

Absolutely agree 100%

[Sheepwheat]

If it freezes we’ll be singing a different tune? When I couldn’t seed an acre for multiple years, when my canola went 6 and my canary 4, because of too much rain, my first thought was not even close to, someone help me!!!! Please government, come help meeee!

Nope.

My first thoughts were, “ geez, this ain’t working, I need to do something different.”

So I did. Something different.

That is what I don’t get here. Is it that much of a shock that farming can be hard? I just don’t get it?????

[the big wheel]

If it freezes we’ll be singing a different tune? When I couldn’t seed an acre for multiple years, when my canola went 6 and my canary 4, because of too much rain, my first thought was not even close to, someone help me!!!! Please government, come help meeee!

Nope.

My first thoughts were, “ geez, this ain’t working, I need to do something different.”

So I did. Something different.

That is what I don’t get here. Is it that much of a shock that farming can be hard? I just don’t get it?????

My God you don’t get it at all. What we spend and contribute we re only asking for part of that back. The parts we lost at every so called advancement to the industry.
You are a very confused person, you can’t make it growing grain crops so we re all supposed to raise sheep??? Lmao
We re trying to find a way so that the risk is leveled out amongst everyone in the industry not just on us.
And you were on here crying about you didnt know what to do and you were gonna quit unless you maybe have dementia or something going on. I have some concerns for those sheep. Lol

I think your envy of those that are more aggressive than you is making you want to justify what your doing with those sheep. And in the process you’d like to see the other industries destroyed and they will be unless we get things changed.

By the way do you go on websites of the grain companies, foreign governments, equipment manufacturers, rail companies, that all involve massive subsidies almost every year to survive and tell them they should do something else?

[jazz]

My first thoughts were, “ geez, this ain’t working, I need to do something different.”

Sheep I get your point and its something everybody can understand, but some of these farms are so big and aren't set up to do something differently overnight. I agree on the canola, we have fed that beast too long. Not one seed company came forward and said hear there are some problems with canola market, we will help by knocking $50 off every bag. Nope not one.

Farmers do need a rethink on risk and COP.