The Green Dream

[Oliver88]

The disposal of solar panels are another inconvenient truth for the crazy greenies.

[RTK]

Does the wind generated or solar generated power get distributed by 🦄’s or does transmission in general cases require use of the power grid comprising of said power poles and power lines that are subject to weather issues unlike the 🦄 transmission grid?

[malleefarmer]

Still havent gone solar here yet getting cheaper and cheaper sadly with govt subsidies but thats the way it is use the advantage.

Theres basically 3 grades of panels here now "chinese" "standard" and "industrial/commericial" the latter are about 60% more but have life which is double.

Some of the cheapies are only good for 10 yrs and lose there charge so to speak. Industrial 25 to 30 yrs. Issue with long life ones is technology may change significantly in that time which it will and could be outdated or even dysfunctional in say 15 to 20 yrs.

Neither for or against climate change but our state were stuck with renewable energy targets and super expensive power wether i like it or not so solar will happen for me one day.

Re nuclear read somewere credible that canada australia and think siberia perhaps has basically 80% of worlds uranium combined. Could have cheapest power on planet sadly wont happen due to bans put on it here in oz about 25 yrs ago maybe 30

[Partners]

On news.rebate for farmers to install.
Only 8 to 10 yrs to recoup costs..

[farmaholic]

There's a couple of young guys in my home town that started up a solar power company.
I don't know what brand or quality of product they're selling and installing.
They may as well get on the bandwagon before there is no room.

I don't know if I want to have another depreciating maintenance item to invest in.
Will there be any salvage value at the end of their useful life?
Will they have any trade-in value if something new and improved comes out in 5-7 years before they're "spent".

In my opinion, solar and wind may only ever supplement the dependable energy sources.

[grassfarmer]

Even in a Republican state, in Trump's America the tide is turning. Simple economics favouring renewables over coal.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/jeffmcmahon/2019/07/02/mike-pences-indiana-chooses-renewables-over-gas-as-it-retires-coal-early/?fbclid=IwAR3S9I6fI1EiS-Cmob3PWXcCbvxeynzpHDhy5-pxV-0FAWUdKJIJMNIFjw4#6500778d43b4 http://https://www.forbes.com/sites/jeffmcmahon/2019/07/02/mike-pences-indiana-chooses-renewables-over-gas-as-it-retires-coal-early/?fbclid=IwAR3S9I6fI1EiS-Cmob3PWXcCbvxeynzpHDhy5-pxV-0FAWUdKJIJMNIFjw4#6500778d43b4

[mustardman]

Costs are Recouped in 5- 6 years on farm
Oh and don’t forget the gang who couldn’t shoot straight (Sask Party) have raised rates 55% in last few years

They are on there way to doubling so these fiscally incompetent ones can help with their budgets

[malleefarmer]

This guys sadly lost his seat and didnt appeal to younger generation of voters but his comments below about wind power

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2019/jul/19/dark-satanic-mills-tony-abbott-continues-his-crusade-against-wind-turbines https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2019/jul/19/dark-satanic-mills-tony-abbott-continues-his-crusade-against-wind-turbines

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-06-12/tony-abbott-launches-another-attack-against-wind-farms/6541952 https://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-06-12/tony-abbott-launches-another-attack-against-wind-farms/6541952

[RTK]

If these types of renewal energy sources are truly least cost and more reliable than other forms of energy sources then they will be readily adopted by the masses on their own merit. That is common sense and a natural progression. Unfortunately, they are neither at this point and until they can pass those two simple hurdles - it makes more sense economically and for reliability reasons to continue with traditional energy sources. Pretty simple - create a better product and people will adopt it on it's own merit.

[Blaithin]

Funny how us in Agriculture tell others not to fall for the sensationalized rare exceptions to the rules. Not all farmers are cruel, not all chemicals are misused, not all animals die from neglect....

Yet we can’t apply that same logic when doing our own research.