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Originally posted by tweety View PostThe reality of feed conversion ratio, water use, and the dismal protein conversion efficiency. For example beef is 2.5% and chicken is 21%.
1 kg of Beef produces 35 kg of CO2 while chicken 4.5
High levels of methane and nitrous make beef an easy target for making it out to destroy the environment.
Beyond meat isn't the beef industry's problem, It's being the poster child of waste and cause of climate change. Good marketing will keep focusing on that fact which beef can't even begin to push back on. Do yourself a reality check and have a Farmers Breakfast wrap at Timmies, they are actually quite good.
Cost will come down significantly for isolate based proteins, more companies are already getting in on the action. More and more really good home made beyond meat recipes will replace even more "evil" beef.
But since Ag sucks at anything to do with public perception, they'll just keep calling it names and dog food while the ship sinks.
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Originally posted by the big wheel View PostJust out of curiosity what was the so called fillers in hamburger? What exactly was it, McDonald’s got caught with the pink slime and then the marketing was yes your beef burger is pure beef which is what I expected it was all along. Burger King was selling horse meats when you couldn’t give horses away. Margins must have been pretty good then.
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Originally posted by the big wheel View PostJust out of curiosity what was the so called fillers in hamburger? What exactly was it, McDonald’s got caught with the pink slime and then the marketing was yes your beef burger is pure beef which is what I expected it was all along. Burger King was selling horse meats when you couldn’t give horses away. Margins must have been pretty good then.
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Originally posted by grassfarmer View PostYeah, sure Tweedeldum. We just started grazing a section of rented wildlife habitat. Slough and bog full of weeds. Would be slim picking for your vegans. Only the cow can turn this junk food into high quality protein one bite at a time. The other guys are turning healthy vegetables into junk food.
While you say 50 cows are grazing in a grassy wldlife area that gets tweeted, instagrammed and facebooked to 12 people, millions of the public gets shown images of hundreds of thousands of feeder cattle belly deep in cowshit, destroying ground water, wasting energy, and creating methane and NOx causing global warming over and over and over on every conceivable social media channel and media as well.
So keep up the ignorance of what's actually going on.. Maybe it'll all just go away if we keep telling each other how dumb they are.
Which is publicly more acceptable? A feedlot or field? - which is where most of those burgers come from
Last edited by tweety; Jul 24, 2019, 09:35.
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Wake up sleepy heads, no antibiotics, no disease, no contamination, no killing. GMO bacteria produced ice cream and cheese is on its way too. Vegan friendly, no animals required to be worked or slaughtered. Even has a friendly name, Future Meats.
https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2019/07/lab-grown-meat-company-aiming-to-be-in-restaurants-by-2021 https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2019/07/lab-grown-meat-company-aiming-to-be-in-restaurants-by-2021Last edited by tweety; Jul 24, 2019, 09:44.
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Originally posted by tweety View PostThe reality of feed conversion ratio, water use, and the dismal protein conversion efficiency. For example beef is 2.5% and chicken is 21%.
1 kg of Beef produces 35 kg of CO2 while chicken 4.5
High levels of methane and nitrous make beef an easy target for making it out to destroy the environment.
Beyond meat isn't the beef industry's problem, It's being the poster child of waste and cause of climate change. Good marketing will keep focusing on that fact which beef can't even begin to push back on. Do yourself a reality check and have a Farmers Breakfast wrap at Timmies, they are actually quite good.
Cost will come down significantly for isolate based proteins, more companies are already getting in on the action. More and more really good home made beyond meat recipes will replace even more "evil" beef.
But since Ag sucks at anything to do with public perception, they'll just keep calling it names and dog food while the ship sinks.
I love my beef , keeps me strong
Thanks to those that work their asses off to produce it
I see them trying to bale hay on my way to the lake every weekend and appreciate their efforts
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Originally posted by tweety View PostOf course it is, but perception is reality - something Ag will never understand. You just roll your eyes and say idiot under your breath and keep pumping out the arrogant facts of "science" to the choir, meanwhile GMO's, glyphosate, chuckwagon races, pesticides in general get banned as the Austranada's of the world are way more effective and social media savvy.
While you say 50 cows are grazing in a grassy wldlife area that gets tweeted, instagrammed and facebooked to 12 people, millions of the public gets shown images of hundreds of thousands of feeder cattle belly deep in cowshit, destroying ground water, wasting energy, and creating methane and NOx causing global warming over and over and over on every conceivable social media channel and media as well.
So keep up the ignorance of what's actually going on.. Maybe it'll all just go away if we keep telling each other how dumb they are.
Which is publicly more acceptable? A feedlot or field? - which is where most of those burgers come from
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Originally posted by tweety View Post
Which is publicly more acceptable? A feedlot or field? - which is where most of those burgers come from
The field of course - where these cattle are being fattened.
Compared to the alternative
Two can play at this game and arguably those in primary ag production have never before had a better opportunity to influence the general public the way they do now through social media. I've had posts on Facebook shared over 100 times and videos viewed over 20,000 times. We're not all dumb in agriculture.
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That top picture of the animal grazing ....is making my mouth water....deeeelicious looking beast....I am picturing a baked potato , beets, and a small salad beside it along with horseradish and to drink an ice cold coke....mmmmmmm!!!Last edited by bucket; Jul 24, 2019, 10:42.
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