Canada a Shit Hole Country on Ag. USA farmers to get a acreage payment for China prob

[SASKFARMER]

The USA is handing farmers a payment of $15.00 ( 20 Canadian) for the trade problems caused by the Federal gov with China.

In Canada, we have an F#$King Loan.

It is totally Insane how this country treats its farmers. They will piss away billions in foreign aid for shit all or give massive amounts of money to grain companies etc but farmers are just useless fools who work the land.

The Fed Ag minister and Prov leaders failed us miserably. Sask was also a joke for agreeing with lets study some more. This is the biggest crock of shit line that has been used so many times in the past. What it really means is let's hope it goes away so we don't have to do anything.

Ag is important to Canada but Farmer's arent.

An F#$King loan doesn't work it adds more debt on a crop that has dropped in value by the amount of the first subsidy in the USA. We are connected with Soy so every time they get a check our price drops. They get covered we have to adjust to the new reality and struggle on.

So here we go again.

Then the other day at the meeting some Idiot with the Canola council was comparing the Western Problem with the problems the eastern Soy Farmers were having with Soy prices.

Ah, Canola is screwed because of Useless fools running Ottawa who screwed up our market. Soy is F#$Keed because of the USA TRade deals. Two different issues the same problem but one was caused by our Gov.

Ag Stab is a joke. It is a useless program that works for Accountants and Workers that's it.

Welcome to the 90s boys and girls this shit show will just get worse.

[bucket]

With canola dropping and yields off ....how many bushels per acre does it now take to cover expenses. ?


What if it drops to 8.50?


How many acres will be grown according to stats can in 2020....25 million acres to keep their numbers working. ?

[bucket]

I also think it's time that our farm rep groups and check off commissions get their heads out of their asses....

At what point does someone realize farmers in Western Canada can't compete against farmers that are getting government subsidies where market prices are set for our commodities....


Soybeans could go to 4 bucks a bushel and the American government would keep sending cheques. ....while canola dropped accordingly people would say that's the open market....


It's getting so idiotic but after listening to an official at a representing organization pat himself on the back .....we are not being represented and nothing is being done ..their tactics in dealing with the government isn't working. ...

[SASKFARMER]

We farmers are being played by the manipulators in the Market.

Canola drops every time the USA does something because we're connected with Soy. Yea then when soy goes through the roof "Oh were not connected"

F#$K Me its a joke.

So now we have a huge price drop from my high of $11.25 down I don't even look any more couldn't care if it goes to $6.00 because they don't care.

This next subsidy will drive it down even lower.

Yet our geniuses think its a trade issue and we have worlds best so they will buy.

yea like that is working so good.

Farmers get screwed because of the Fed Gov and we get an F#K$Ing loan to pay back at low prices. Win-win for everyone except the FArmer.

We get screwed again this time by our own Fed Gov.

[SASKFARMER]

I agree to listen to the bull shit that comes out of our Representatives and Gov officials are so full of shit I can't believe they can actually say these things with a straight face.

F#K$ me Ag is Dead in Canada.

[farmaholic]

...........affects of pure unadulterated politics.

On both sides of the border.

Its just being handled differently.

[chuckChuck]

But you're doing your part helping Trump win the trade with war with China! Trump is putting America first and making America great again. He doesn't care if it hurts Canadian farmers.

We have never been able to match the US subsidy or support system for agriculture.

But you think Trump is great and protectionism is good so don't blame Canadian ag ministers for not wanting to spend billions trying to keep up with Trump in his plan to make sure he gets re-elected in 2020!

[bucket]

Pulse Canada. ..Sask pulse ...canola council...flax council sask wheat ..apas....should all be in the same room discussing how to deal with this and how to hire someone from the dairy steel or auto industries to extract a payment from the government....

Because whatever the current group of farm leaders are doing isn't ****ing working. ...whereas the other groups are doing quite well.

[the big wheel]

Facts are plain and simple.
The countries we compete with for markets are being subsidized in a simple manner not complicated and timely.
Our programs do not address the current loss of markets due to political actions. They also are failures to address the drought, floods etc so 2 things are happenning at the same time to us farmers.
Many politicians for some reason jokingly and sometimes not admit the programs do not handle what I mentioned above. So it is a fact they all know this.
A high number of farmers no longer participate in the programs due to their ineffectiveness, their untimely results, audit function ties to revenue Canada, cost of accountants, and plain and simple blatant bullshit to help farmers.
They are flawed by including loss years even if zero yields and income to determine and calculate future revenue guarantees this is beyond insane. Do politicians include years they worked at McDonald’s or we re unemployed to determine their future salary as MPs or mlas.

There is a campaign to imply that we want something for nothing yet our contributions to society are deliberately not listed. It is also true we are paying premiums and would do so gladly for effective programs that work and that do not pay our claims a year later similar to the much hated cwb used to be.

[bucket]

But you're doing your part helping Trump win the trade with war with China! Trump is putting America first and making America great again. He doesn't care if it hurts Canadian farmers.

We have never been able to match the US subsidy or support system for agriculture.

But you think Trump is great and protectionism is good so don't blame Canadian ag ministers for not wanting to spend billions trying to keep up with Trump in his plan to make sure he gets re-elected in 2020!

Bullshit ...Trudeau has given more money away to foreign interests than it would take to put a support program and help farm families....

This has nothing to do with electing Trump or how good or bad he is....Trump doesn't govern Canada. ...


This about the fact that our market pricing is based in the states and US farmers are made whole by government meddling...

The same should be done here...no different than dairy farmers getting a payment due to government meddling in trade deals....

[Partners]

The Fed's.are probably hoping for a early frost so the canola price will rise..then they will says what is the problem?.
Prices will balance themselves..
Send Ralph a e mail..i am sure he will get rite on it..lol..

[beaverdam]

SASKFARMER, "It is totally Insane how this country treats its farmers. They will piss away billions in foreign aid for shit all or give massive amounts of money to grain companies etc but farmers are just useless fools who work the land.

The Fed Ag minister and Prov leaders failed us miserably. Sask was also a joke for agreeing with lets study some more. This is the biggest crock of shit line that has been used so many times in the past. What it really means is let's hope it goes away so we don't have to do anything. "

Saskfarmer, don't you know that farming and farmers put out massive amounts of carbon into the atmosphere??? Don't you know farming is destructive and bad for the environment??? Don't you know that food comes from grocery stores??? Don't you know, we don't need dirty farmers polluting the air with carbon??? Don't you know that getting rid of farmers will help Canada meet our obligation to the United Nations Paris Climate Accord??? Don't you realize your not needed any longer??? Don't you know your redundant!??? Let me say it again,,,food comes from the stores!!! We don't need farmers anymore!!!

[bucket]

SASKFARMER, "It is totally Insane how this country treats its farmers. They will piss away billions in foreign aid for shit all or give massive amounts of money to grain companies etc but farmers are just useless fools who work the land.

The Fed Ag minister and Prov leaders failed us miserably. Sask was also a joke for agreeing with lets study some more. This is the biggest crock of shit line that has been used so many times in the past. What it really means is let's hope it goes away so we don't have to do anything. "

Saskfarmer, don't you know that farming and farmers put out massive amounts of carbon into the atmosphere??? Don't you know farming is destructive and bad for the environment??? Don't you know that food comes from grocery stores??? Don't you know, we don't need dirty farmers polluting the air with carbon??? Don't you know that getting rid of farmers will help Canada meet our obligation to the United Nations Paris Climate Accord??? Don't you realize your not needed any longer??? Don't you know your redundant!??? Let me say it again,,,food comes from the stores!!! We don't need farmers anymore!!!

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[bucket]

Hello Mr. Beaverdam....

What happened to all that Agvocate and ag more than ever and 1 in 8 jobs depend on agriculture and young farmers of the year....

Did it all just disappear?

[macdon02]

https://www.agriculture.com/markets/newswire/france-asks-eu-for-early-farm-aid-to-help-drought-hit-farmers https://www.agriculture.com/markets/newswire/france-asks-eu-for-early-farm-aid-to-help-drought-hit-farmers