Canada a Shit Hole Country on Ag. USA farmers to get a acreage payment for China prob

[Radical]

https://erietigertimes.com/1685/politics/18-ridiculous-things-the-federal-government-has-funded/

[Radical]

https://reason.com/2019/04/15/happy-tax-day-here-are-6-infuriating-ways-the-government-spends-your-money/?amp

[farmaholic]

Radical. I would think following the money and connecting dots would explain some things.

Friendship patronage and stuff like that.

[Radical]

U guys fix the government and I will just enjoy life .

[bucket]

Does canada have trade issues with China, India, and other major importers?????

If we do and its out of the individual farmers control much like the weather , does the government not have a responsibility to step in???

I buy insurance for the effects of mother nature....where do you buy insurance for the incompetence of government?


Oh ...maybe thats why Kevin Hursch and Dave Marit are promoting a GARS link to agristability....good for Grant Kosior....but why doesn't the government just enhance crop insurance and agristabilty....

Governments are talking about climate change in almost every breath and yet they take agriculture's contributions to reducing the effects of C02 for granted....I think there should be an offsetting payment that could be administered through crop insurance and paid to the aginvest accounts.....

Then the effects of drought and trade can be picked up by an immediate change to agristability....

Not sure how stupid you have to be to see the statistics that agristability isn't working and the ag ministers sit at a table twiddling their thumbs .....

What is worse is the Alberta ag minister worked in Ritz's office while they were ****ing it up....and he can't pinpoint the problem...

[grassfarmer]

The view from a US farmer:

"USDA announced how our trade war welfare checks will be calculated yesterday. The payments range from $150 per acre down to $15. Yates county's rate will be $35 per acre. Every farmer in each county gets the same rate regardless of what crops on the list we planted or how badly (or even whether) we were harmed. Seneca county farmers will get $48 per acre, Wayne county farmers will Get $54/acre, while numerous counties in Georgia, Florida, Alabama, Mississippi, Arkansas, and Louisiana will receive the $150 per acre limit or very close to it. Other people and businesses who are seriously harmed by the trade war get to pay the taxes that fund the handouts. Ain't socialism great?"

[farmaholic]

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Not sure how stupid you have to be to see the statistics that agristability isn't working and the ag ministers sit at a table twiddling their thumbs .....

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Its doing exactly what they want it to do.

[farmaholic]

.......tracking participating farms' financial health.
......and not paying benefits.
......it was gutted so it wouldn't trigger payments.
.....Provincial and Federal governments seen the potential huge liability so changed the trigger levels.

[the big wheel]

The view from a US farmer:

"USDA announced how our trade war welfare checks will be calculated yesterday. The payments range from $150 per acre down to $15. Yates county's rate will be $35 per acre. Every farmer in each county gets the same rate regardless of what crops on the list we planted or how badly (or even whether) we were harmed. Seneca county farmers will get $48 per acre, Wayne county farmers will Get $54/acre, while numerous counties in Georgia, Florida, Alabama, Mississippi, Arkansas, and Louisiana will receive the $150 per acre limit or very close to it. Other people and businesses who are seriously harmed by the trade war get to pay the taxes that fund the handouts. Ain't socialism great?"

Omg grass do you not understand either where that money will go? Doesn’t the money you spend help the businesses in your area? Then that’s all taxed again and again as it moves through the chain the gov doesn’t lose anything communities stay viable.

[farmaholic]

Omg grass do you not understand either where that money will go? Doesn’t the money you spend help the businesses in your area? Then that’s all taxed again and again as it moves through the chain the gov doesn’t lose anything communities stay viable.

What's the difference if I capitalize any financial help into farmland or my suppliers of goods and services capitalize it, after I spent it at their businesses, into cabins at the lake?

Whose ***Ä·en business is it where I spend the money I took the risks to earn?

[bucket]

What's the difference if I capitalize any financial help into farmland or my suppliers of goods and services capitalize it, after I spent it at their businesses, into cabins at the lake?

Whose ***Ä·en business is it where I spend the money I took the risks to earn?

But the general public doesn't think government money is hard earned and want a say in how it is spent....

When a bunch of farmers go broke and sell out ...it's rare that an average Joe wants to farm even though they complain about the handout ....

The general public doesn't understand new equipment is a good thing....can't have used equipment without new at one point.......


Even some farmers don't understand it...

I also don't think most of general population understand how much the government props up their jobs ....


Just look at all the recent funding announcements.....

[grassfarmer]

Whose ***Ä·en business is it where I spend the money I took the risks to earn?

You don't earn hand-outs - you get handed them - it's even in the name.

[bucket]

You don't earn hand-outs - you get handed them - it's even in the name.

Interesting ...you never see called a handout to industry or startups. ...
Or bonuses to TMX management ....I call that a handout....