Tariff Wars Are Easy to Win

[jazz]

An unstable impoverished China is not something to wish for. Do you even know they have nukes and ICBMs? Guess how WWII started. Japan felt economically threatened.

Was that before or after they attacked pearl harbour?

I think china will be fighting some pretty big civil unrest before it goes after the US. US could torpedo their currency tomorrow and cut off their oil. Like Trump said if they are so powerful let them stick some ships in the straight of hormuz and escort the oil out of that hornets nest.

[WiltonRanch]

The days of China eating grass to prove a point are for the history books. The populace aside from the Mao era folks (whom are really old or dead) won’t stand for it. The communist regime will soon find out truly how much power they have. Interesting times. I’m conflicted about this as I don’t like trump but also don’t care for communist China neither.

[malleefarmer]

See ozcanada must have ruffled feathers sask3

But must have been article about glypho on barley.

Personally know 100s of barley growers australia wide 100s and 100s and dont know a single one that uses glypho on feed barley. Not used on malt period illegal and tested for residues.

Im thinking oz canada may not even farm in oz maybe on a working holiday perhaps bit out of touch with whats actually happening here.

Called him out a few times but dont waste my time or breath anymore.

[grassfarmer]

Caving into the bully never ends well.

I concur. That's why I supported Canada's team renegotiating NAFTA despite the calls by most on here for Canada to sign an agreement quickly, and at any cost.
It also justifies China's stance in this trade war with the US.

[AlbertaFarmer5]

I concur. That's why I supported Canada's team renegotiating NAFTA despite the calls by most on here for Canada to sign an agreement quickly, and at any cost.
It also justifies China's stance in this trade war with the US.

Perhaps you just experienced it differently?

Calling Canada US relations a bully/victim relationship is akin to calling your parents bullies because they've cut your allowance down to only $1000 per week, and cut your video game time to only 40 hours per week. While living in their basement at age 49 for free.

[malleefarmer]

Dumb question from me whats new.

Trade war supposedly.

Well when is a trade war won and lost?

So the end game for usa is people buy and use more usa made products and chinese stuff becomes more expensive.

Whats a win for chinese?

Showing my economic ignorance

[farmaholic]

Hey Mallee, has Austrailia had any pulse tariffs imposed on them by India or any grain sales blocked by China.
Is Australian agriculture having any trade issues at all?

Legitimate question mate.

[malleefarmer]

Hey Mallee, has Austrailia had any pulse tariffs imposed on them by India or any grain sales blocked by China.
Is Australian agriculture having any trade issues at all?

Legitimate question mate.

yep cut and paste from may 3 2019. Some insiders say imported barley from aust was "to" expensive" china went to WTO prices droppes about $60 per tonne overnight china continued buying barley at a cheaper price

FARMERS across Australia are forging ahead with their barley plantings, while China forges ahead with its anti-dumping investigation into Australian barley shipped in years past.

While the Australian barley industry is fearful China’s investigation could have the same impact as China’s 2018 probe into United States sorghum pricing, it also holds hopes this valued market will remain open.

The trade has not yet heard of any preliminary findings from the investigation, which is looking for evidence of injurious dumping as defined by World Trade Organisation rules.

Nor should it expect to: submissions from around 40 Australian barley exporters were made in February, and are believed to cover a period of investigation from 1 January 2014 to 30 September 2018.

“The only feedback we have is no feedback,” one trader said.

Officials from China’s Ministry of Finance and Commerce could take up to 12 months to process the submissions


Grain Producers Australia chairman and grain grower Andrew Weidemann (left) took part in the AEGIC/Barley Australia workshops in China.

Grain Producers Australia chair and Rupanyup, Victoria, farmer Andrew Weidemann said the Australian barley industry was hopeful that exports to its biggest barley market, based on a close trade relationship which has developed over decades, could continue.

“China has got to prove a case under WTO rules, and I think the evidence we’ve submitted doesn’t support the idea that Australia has done that,” Mr Weidemann said.

China’s anti-dumping investigation into US sorghum, which occurred around this time last year, quickly found reason to impose barriers on the flow of US sorghum into China, and it stopped the trade in its tracks for many weeks.

By contrast, Australian exports to China of barley harvested last year, appear to be continuing apace.

China has imported around six million tonnes of Australian barley in recent years, but a reduced export surplus caused by the eastern states’ drought has reduced availability in the current marketing year.

“The long-term outlook for malt and malting production in Australia is good,” Mr Weidemann said.

Increased area

In its monthly barley supply-and-demand report released this week, Lachstock Consulting said the winter crop now being planted included a barley estimate up from the April figure.

“The new-season increase in barley planting has largely reversed the reductions we made a month ago,” the report said.

“With the late season break, we have seen canola area drop, with barley picking up some of those hectares up.”

This trend has been forecast to add barley area at the expense of canola in Western Australian, South Australia and New South Wales, and the barley crop now being planted has been forecast by Lachstock to produce 9.75 million tonnes (Mt).

This compares with the most recent ABARES estimate for 2018 barley production of 8.3Mt, and 8.9Mt in 2017.

“Over the next month we will clearly start to step into more significant barley adjustments if the weather stays dry in WA and SA in particular.

“It looks like Victoria and the barley regions of NSW will get what they need to make a start, albeit with follow-up required shortly thereafter.”

[Guest]

See ozcanada must have ruffled feathers sask3

But must have been article about glypho on barley.

Personally know 100s of barley growers australia wide 100s and 100s and dont know a single one that uses glypho on feed barley. Not used on malt period illegal and tested for residues.

Im thinking oz canada may not even farm in oz maybe on a working holiday perhaps bit out of touch with whats actually happening here.

Called him out a few times but dont waste my time or breath anymore.

Mallee you've never called me out on anything. I am an Australian citizen since 2009, been here longer. I know several farmers that crop top barley in the south coast great southern areas of western Australia. You are south east of Adelaide and out of touch. CBH the nations largest grain handlers started in 2017 to segregate and discount crop topped barley because there is so much of it. The producer declares it on the back of his CDF and accepts a minimum $10/t discount. Farmers here crop top to try to reduce resistant ryegrass seedset. Also ryegrass in the maturing crop is a vector for ergot so again the solution the brainwashed have adopted is more chem. Lose 2% of your crop in the tracks, pay for the sprayer and chem and take the discount. Now with Vietnam banning glyphoshit you don't even have that market for the already discounted commodity. And China is not far behind.