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[SASKFARMER]

I have a question.

The organic guy by us seeded his SMF at the end of June it came up a bit then after the rains, it turned all yellow with mustard from end to end. Wild mustard. Now he has a perfect field of Oats. Can someone explain how that happens what do they spray oh sorry put on these fields that the wild mustard disappears?

[farmaholic]

Both conventional and organic producers farm to make money, each ally themselves with different methods to achieve the same means to an end.

And I respect hobbyfrmr for that.

[Braveheart]

I have a question.

The organic guy by us seeded his SMF at the end of June it came up a bit then after the rains, it turned all yellow with mustard from end to end. Wild mustard. Now he has a perfect field of Oats. Can someone explain how that happens what do they spray oh sorry put on these fields that the wild mustard disappears?[ATTACH]4636[/ATTACH]

So obviously whatever salvaged crop is there has to be cleaned before further processing. What is done with those screenings? It's a noxious brew for sure.

[jazz]

I think its safe to say with what canada ag is facing in the world that if this industry is to surivive there is probably multiple approaches that will have to be considered. To me, the consolidation approach is peaking. Having 10 people farm 100,000 acres is stupid. And the high input model is shaky. To throw everything at a crop when ****** nature bats first second and last is too risky. And subsidizing seed taxes and gaint dealership is getting old especially when they are not true partners in the business.

[bucket]

I think its safe to say with what canada ag is facing in the world that if this industry is to surivive there is probably multiple approaches that will have to be considered. To me, the consolidation approach is peaking. Having 10 people farm 100,000 acres is stupid. And the high input model is shaky. To throw everything at a crop when ****** nature bats first second and last is too risky. And subsidizing seed taxes and gaint dealership is getting old especially when they are not true partners in the business.

Interesting comments Jazz....I called 3 dealerships for parts....these are big brown boxes with 30 foot ceilings ...just empty space....closest part for one dealer was Edmonton...another it was Regina....and they all have access to others inventory but there was one in Moose Jaw...really ****ing weird and then the same cylinder has 3 different seal kits....if there is an update ..you shouldn't need 3 different kits...

Plenty of space at the dealerships...they stock air...I can get that outside...

[the big wheel]

Interesting comments Jazz....I called 3 dealerships for parts....these are big brown boxes with 30 foot ceilings ...just empty space....closest part for one dealer was Edmonton...another it was Regina....and they all have access to others inventory but there was one in Moose Jaw...really ****ing weird and then the same cylinder has 3 different seal kits....if there is an update ..you shouldn't need 3 different kits...

Plenty of space at the dealerships...they stock air...I can get that outside...

Well jeez dumby each kit is getting better becaue the last 2 only last a year these might be double. That’s why you should have paid more in the first place Man some people these days.

[jazz]

Some one with a 5,000 ac farm wont take a quarter or two and convert it to forages then organic for a year or two? Not saying go all in but surely on the size of farms there are a couple quarters could be rotated into the organic market? I would say thats a better bet than doing test strips on the next snake oil.

[hobbyfrmr]

And speaking of breaking your own rules, that seems like an awfully optimistic post coming from a guy whose motto is that there is no money in organic. Perhaps you put the decimal a couple places too far to the right? Or at least tell us about the weeds, and the cultivator shovels, and the neighbors who will make fun of the crops.

You might have just invited a bunch more competition...

“Some” organic fields. There has to be one good one out there!
There is no money in it.
Consider the mess previous posters are describing. The neighbours are already wondering on coffee row, what chemical you skimped on. There is going to be reduced yield and much more dockage. Steep downgrades. If you want pretty grain, its going to cost a minimum of $5000.00 for some piece of junk pre cleaner and the “boys” are gonna cry if they have to sit there and watch augers turn. Its a slow process.
Then....you have a percentage of those weed seeds back onto your land for another 50 years.
A second flush of weeds requires a second pass of herbicide. Most progressive farms are equipped with a modern, comfortable sprayer and probably a hired stooge to sit in it. If you’re making payments on it, use the goddam thing for its intended purpose. A sprayer is the most important machine on a farm, run it. This year will reinforce the message.

[AlbertaFarmer5]

“Some” organic fields. There has to be one good one out there!
There is no money in it.
Consider the mess previous posters are describing. The neighbours are already wondering on coffee row, what chemical you skimped on. There is going to be reduced yield and much more dockage. Steep downgrades. If you want pretty grain, its going to cost a minimum of $5000.00 for some piece of junk pre cleaner and the “boys” are gonna cry if they have to sit there and watch augers turn. Its a slow process.
Then....you have a percentage of those weed seeds back onto your land for another 50 years.
A second flush of weeds requires a second pass of herbicide. Most progressive farms are equipped with a modern, comfortable sprayer and probably a hired stooge to sit in it. If you’re making payments on it, use the goddam thing for its intended purpose. A sprayer is the most important machine on a farm, run it. This year will reinforce the message.

That's more like it, almost let the cat right out of the bag there...