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Most of Trump’s U.S. farm aid goes to wealthiest farmers

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    #11
    The average farm size in the USA is 444 acres so it’s not hard to believe the the 30,000 acre guys got a big check.

    Some of the states the average farm size is barely 50 acres and a $5000 dollar check is probably a pretty big deal, I’m running a little less than 3000 acres and an extra five grand would be pretty special around here.

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      #12
      Again chuck only telling half the story .....
      one that fits his one sided story on near everything he posts on here .

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        #13
        Would it be better to hobble the most successful farmers till the most unsuccessful ones finally catch up?

        How do they track how much each farm gets in Gov't money in the US?
        Amazingly it's on the web!
        Good thing we have that kind of transparency in Canada. /sarc

        https://farm.ewg.org/top_recips.php?fips=00000&progcode=total&yr=2018&r egionname=theUnitedStates https://farm.ewg.org/top_recips.php?fips=00000&progcode=total&yr=2018&r egionname=theUnitedStates

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          #14
          I don't think taxpayers should be bailing out big farms in Canada or the USA.

          Target the limited support to medium or small farms.

          Improve the safety nets and keep politics and ad hoc payments out of the mix as much as possible.

          Don't complain about falling commodity prices and trade issues and then go on to support Trump. He is a big part of the reason this is happening.

          Scheer will not be able to influence China or the USA.

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            #15
            Some people don't understand....if big farmers get a big payment ..that cash move through the economy fast....

            If a guy buys a new combine with it ( I don't care ) it means there is probably a good used one and it trickles through to the small guy with 50 acres that can upgrade as he has always done...a good used 4 th owner combine...

            People have to start understanding the value of payments especially when the market is screwed up by things out of our control...

            You could be growing a 50 bpa canola crop and by the time its all done with black swan events whether by Trump or the unethical moron in Ottawa you could be losing money through no fault of your own...

            Tell your grandparents that built the farm with 20bpa 50/50 farming that a 50 bpa canola crop isn't making money...

            I think people have lost grasp of reality when they think farmers are making money this year...

            When a 70 year old- farm paid off - farmer told me this spring they would go through the motions ...I should have heeded the warning... it won't be a money maker...

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              #16
              Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
              I don't think taxpayers should be bailing out big farms in Canada or the USA.

              Target the limited support to medium or small farms.

              Improve the safety nets and keep politics and ad hoc payments out of the mix as much as possible.

              Don't complain about falling commodity prices and trade issues and then go on to support Trump. He is a big part of the reason this is happening.

              Scheer will not be able to influence China or the USA.
              The fact we can't move product to China have anything to do with it....or India...or Italy...or Saudi Arabia....or anyone else that team of high and mighty libtards have pissed off???

              Blame Trump????? How about Trudeau ..

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                #17
                I don't care if big farms get big payments...Once the dominoes start to fall with big farms and the reset starts ...if you think you are coming out unscathed by a reset ....you are needing to review history a little....not about the financial part of it but community, other business affected...

                I have seen it happen....you want your community to survive or fail? To fail just keep repeating that farmers don't need ad hoc payments....but don't complain when the dealer says the part will be here tomorrow or the next day because that is part of the equation people can't connect the dots on...

                When you take the blinders off you will understand why Quebec is doing so well ...community and tightly held values and monster payments from the rest of Canada..

                People have to start taking a wider angle view than saying """" we don't need adhoc payments because it makes us look bad or I don't need them so why should anyone else....""""
                Last edited by bucket; Aug 15, 2019, 08:21.

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                  #18
                  Maybe cluck cluck likes trudopes hair?
                  What else could it be
                  Maybe he really dislikes trumps hair

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                    #19
                    Remember, to the socialists, it is all about the equal distribution of poverty, that is far preferable to the unequal distribution of wealth. Drag everyone down to the same level, no one should aspire to anything better.
                    Each and every day, 10 men go to a restaurant for dinner together. The bill for all 10 comes to $100 each day. If the bill were paid the way we pay our taxes, the first four would pay nothing; the fifth would pay $1; the sixth would pay $3; the seventh $7; the eighth $12; the ninth $18. The 10th man – the richest – would pay $59. Although the 10 men didn't share the bill equally, they all seemed content enough with the arrangement – until the restaurant owner threw them a curve.

                    "You're all very good customers," the owner said, "so I'm going to reduce the cost of your daily meal by $20. I'm going to charge you just $80 in total." The 10 men looked at each other and seemed genuinely surprised, but quite happy about the news.

                    The first four men, of course, are unaffected because they weren't paying anything for their meals anyway. They'll still eat for free. The big question is how to divvy up the $20 in savings among the remaining six in a way that's fair for each of them. They realized that $20 divided by six is $3.33, but if they subtract that amount from each person's share, then the fifth and sixth men would end up being paid to eat their meals. The restaurant owner suggested that it would be fair to reduce each person's bill by roughly the same percentage, and he proceeded to work out the amounts that each should pay.

                    The results? The fifth man paid nothing, the sixth pitched in $2, the seventh paid $5, the eighth paid $9, the ninth paid $14, leaving the 10th man with a bill of $50 instead of $59. Outside the restaurant, the men began to compare their savings. "I only got one dollar out of the $20," said the sixth man, pointing to the 10th man, "and he got $9!" "Yeah, that's right," exclaimed the fifth man. "I only saved a dollar, too! It's not fair that he got nine times more than me!" "That's true," shouted the seventh man. "Why should he get back $9 when I only got $2? The rich get all the breaks!" "Wait a minute," yelled the first four men in unison. "We didn't get anything at all. The system exploits the poor!"

                    The nine outraged men surrounded the 10th and brutally assaulted him. The next day, he didn't show up for dinner, so the nine sat down and ate without him. But when it came time to pay the bill, they faced a problem that they hadn't faced before. They were $50 short.

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                      #20
                      Chucky why not try some different reading material?

                      When my kids were in school they would sell magazine subscriptions as a fundraiser, so i always tried to buy something different every year from them. One year I got ''The Manitoba Cooperator'' because I thought it would have some Ag content. Well holy crap after the first issue, all it was was extreme left wing propaganda. Never opened another issue, only used them to light the stove.

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