Most of Trump’s U.S. farm aid goes to wealthiest farmers

[chuckChuck]

As this Reuters article republished in the Cooperator explained, most of the subsidies and support go to farms who probably don't need it.

This can drive up the price of land squeezing smaller farms who already can't compete with the bigger ones.

Its interesting that some posters are concerned about the transfer of wealth, but then go on to support just that, in the form of taxpayers payments to make up for bad political decisions in the US and a trade war they didn't want.

If you support politicians who are in favour of protectionism and trade wars that end up hurting you, don't be expecting to be bailed out by the large majority of taxpayers who are non-farmers.

Trudeau's role in the trade war is minimal. The USA asked for the Huawei woman to be arrested. India put tariffs on primarily for domestic political reasons. Trudeau could do a better job on these trade issues. But Scheer has not said how he will fix the problems that are mostly beyond Canada's influence.

Trudeau may be an idiot, but many of you are supporting the much bigger idiot to the south who is driving us into a recession and screwing up ag markets big time.

[MBgrower]

Robin hood syndrome. just like fellow merrymen(persons), trudope and jugmeet.

[bucket]

As this Reuters article republished in the Cooperator explained, most of the subsidies and support go to farms who probably don't need it.

This can drive up the price of land squeezing smaller farms who already can't compete with the bigger ones.

Its interesting that some posters are concerned about the transfer of wealth, but then go on to support just that, in the form of taxpayers payments to make up for bad political decisions in the US and a trade war they didn't want.

If you support politicians who are in favour of protectionism and trade wars that end up hurting you, don't be expecting to be bailed out by the large majority of taxpayers who are non-farmers.

Trudeau's role in the trade war is minimal. The USA asked for the Huawei woman to be arrested. India put tariffs on primarily for domestic political reasons. Trudeau could do a better job on these trade issues. But Scheer has not said how he will fix the problems that are mostly beyond Canada's influence.

Trudeau may be an idiot, but many of you are supporting the much bigger idiot to the south who is driving us into a recession and screwing up ag markets big time.

But Trudeau has the resources to match Trump's MFP the same way Harper had to match the US governments bailout of the auto sector....that by the way never made the taxpayer whole....

All Trudeau has to do is quit sending billions all over the world for no good reason...pay farmers and give the countries that need help our grain...

Every US government would rather give away their grain than the money...because its better for the US economy ....to keep the spending at home...

The issues in canadian agriculture today are Trudeau's fault...While Yerry really fu*cked western farmers ,,,,Trudeau has had 4 years to fix it...and its a simple fix....

[chuckChuck]

There is no reason for Trudeau to send money to farmers to bail them out when they vote Conservative anyway.

In the US, Trump is sending money to farmers to keep their vote after he created their big trade problems.

Its pretty simple politics Trump is buying votes and Trudeau doesn't need your vote.

Isn't politics just great.

Neither party has a long term plan to keep small and medium farmers in business. They are both happy to let grain farmers prosper in a "free" market.

The poor economics of agriculture that has been putting many farmers out of business, has been a long term problem through many Conservative and Liberal governments.

[bucket]

There is no reason for Trudeau to send money to farmers to bail them out when they vote Conservative anyway.

In the US, Trump is sending money to farmers to keep their vote after he created their big trade problems.

Its pretty simple politics Trump is buying votes and Trudeau doesn't need your vote.

Isn't politics just great.

Neither party has a long term plan to keep small and medium farmers in business. They are both happy to let grain farmers prosper in a "free" market.

The poor economics of agriculture that has been putting many farmers out of business, has been a long term problem through many Conservative and Liberal governments.

Chuck chuck

I think we could have a conversation about your statement " Neither party has a long term plan to keep small and medium farmers in business "

Its very true and that started under Ritz....look at his advisors ....all "giddyup lets go" types with no regard for what was happening in ag....its going to come home to roost in the next couple years when a 50bpa crop is break even for these guys....and grandpa's money has run out or depreciated in machinery decals....

Some on here will call me depressing....nope...just realistic....and I am pretty handy with a calculator....


Bottom line....Ritz and his advisers had zero vision for agriculture....ZERO....and whats worse is they can't even admit it....they are no better than Trudeau and ethics....

[AlbertaFarmer5]

As this Reuters article republished in the Cooperator explained, most of the subsidies and support go to farms who probably don't need it.

This can drive up the price of land squeezing smaller farms who already can't compete with the bigger ones.

Its interesting that some posters are concerned about the transfer of wealth, but then go on to support just that, in the form of taxpayers payments to make up for bad political decisions in the US and a trade war they didn't want.

If you support politicians who are in favour of protectionism and trade wars that end up hurting you, don't be expecting to be bailed out by the large majority of taxpayers who are non-farmers.

Trudeau's role in the trade war is minimal. The USA asked for the Huawei woman to be arrested. India put tariffs on primarily for domestic political reasons. Trudeau could do a better job on these trade issues. But Scheer has not said how he will fix the problems that are mostly beyond Canada's influence.

Trudeau may be an idiot, but many of you are supporting the much bigger idiot to the south who is driving us into a recession and screwing up ag markets big time.

This can drive up the price of land Something we can actually agree on. Market distorting payments are never good, removing all the proper price signals which would otherwise serve to balance the supply and demand. But more importantly, they eventually get bid into the price of land or rent, to the point where they have no net effect on incomes anyways. But it is not a big farm vs. small farm issue, all are getting the same price for the same acre in the same area. One of the few areas where government is not biased against those who are more ambitious and successful.