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    #11
    Now we know exactly why big business including oil companies are jumping on the global warming carbon tax. It's because of higher profits that nobody can really complain about. after all if it saves just one polar bear it must be worth it.

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      #12
      Originally posted by furrowtickler View Post
      Trucking rates locally just went up 15% , due to carbon tax.
      Can’t blame the truckers , but as many of us said we are going to not only pay canon tax on many things , we will also get stuck paying others carbon tax
      All while our markets are in the tank .... thank a liberal 👎👎👎👎
      15% is a bit stiff...

      At ~10,000L/mth that's an added cost of say $537 at $20/mT per month.

      On $20,000 gross monthly earnings, you would now need $20,537, or 1.027% more to be on the same footing.

      Obviously im just taking the fuel into account and not the increased cost of everything else like tires, equipment, parts as the tax works it's way through the system... but 15% is stiff.

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        #13
        Originally posted by helmsdale View Post
        15% is a bit stiff...

        At ~10,000L/mth that's an added cost of say $537 at $20/mT per month.

        On $20,000 gross monthly earnings, you would now need $20,537, or 1.027% more to be on the same footing.

        Obviously im just taking the fuel into account and not the increased cost of everything else like tires, equipment, parts as the tax works it's way through the system... but 15% is stiff.
        Your last paragraph is exactly the big picture .... all of that is getting passed down , it’s not just fuel .........
        for those who don’t get it ...

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          #14
          Even if $537 seems trivial, it's still a $6,000+ hit that has to come from somewhere every year...

          And for those who advocate for a carbon tax that will have an impact on climate change, you really shouldn't sell it by saying you wont hardly notice it...

          Either it's small enough to be trivial, or big enough to have an actual impact. It cant be both of those things at the same time.

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            #15
            Originally posted by helmsdale View Post
            And for those who advocate for a carbon tax that will have an impact on climate change, you really shouldn't sell it by saying you wont hardly notice it...

            Either it's small enough to be trivial, or big enough to have an actual impact. It cant be both of those things at the same time.
            No different than the discussion Chuck and I keep having. He claims renewables are way cheaper than reliables, which is why their installation will increase going forward. Then in the next breath, claims that power rates are only going to go up sharply(and no doubt they are and will, thanks to the additional unreliables), which will make his solar panels cost effective. Can't have it both ways.

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              #16
              Carbon tax on propane:
              Currently an added 3.1 cents/litre or 8.2%
              In four years it will add 8 cents/litre or 21.1%

              Isn’t the purpose of the carbon tax to change “bad behaviour”/provide extra $ for Trudeau to send around the world on random causes?

              Is drying grain an option for Liberal farmers?

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                #17
                Originally posted by furrowtickler View Post
                Trucking rates locally just went up 15% , due to carbon tax.
                Can’t blame the truckers , but as many of us said we are going to not only pay canon tax on many things , we will also get stuck paying others carbon tax
                All while our markets are in the tank .... thank a liberal 👎👎👎👎
                And the carbon tax isn’t at the highest rate yet it has a lot more increases coming in the future if sockboy and Lizzy May get another term.

                Thank a Liberal for sure.

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