Chuck, true cost renewables

[sumdumguy]

Chucky, dear Chucky, I can fire up that combine everyday, all day because of good ol fossil fuel, I don’t wait for the sun to shine or wind to blow. Capeech?

[AlbertaFarmer5]

Back to the original post.

It is noteworthy that this spectacular failure of renewables occurred in Texas, one of the best places in the world for renewables, being blessed with abundant sun and wind, and where peak demand closely correlates with peak supply, and where Natural gas backup is amongst the cheapest in the world.

AND IT STILL RESULTED IN CATASTROPHICALLY HIGHER ENERGY PRICES FOR THE CONSUMERS. This is an expected result in Ontario, or UK, or Germany, or BC, but if it is going to work anywhere, it should work in Texas. Everywhere else can just multiply Texas's cost increases accordingly.

[blackpowder]

Chuck is willing to put his money where his mouth is. Literally, a lot of money.
I can't afford to, nor would I want to.
Current policy will leave us all in trouble as we aren't maintaining the production system we have. Thank you to all the Chucks.
If the new word for liar is denier, what does that make Chuck??

[Guest]

BULLSHIT!!!!

To give a simple answer to a complicated question, 1hp = ~745w. 8.5x745 = ~6.3kw. Depending on location etc, you'd need ~8kw pv array.

Panels put out ~150w/sq.meter. 8000/150 = 54 square meters. A common mount would be ~2m high, so ~27m long (roughly 7' by 100' array).

This is just to give you a sense of the order of magnitude solar array involved.

18Hp?? Still extra left over???? You have 700 sq ft x 18? 12 600 square feet of solar panels?? You should be able to see a solar array that size from space. **** you 'chuck. Or are you 'averaging' and using the rest of our paid for grid as your battery over a year? Which is it?

Edit: the 8.5 in the calculation is running one 1hp motor for only 8.5 hours a day. That's only when it's sunny. Good job grain doesn't need to be dried the other 15.5 hours a day. On this site we ****ing obey the laws of physics 'chuck.

god damn details again, cluck, cluck

[Hamloc]

https://www.country-guide.ca/crops/are-you-really-drying-grain-when-you-turn-on-aeration-fans/ https://www.country-guide.ca/crops/are-you-really-drying-grain-when-you-turn-on-aeration-fans/

https://www.producer.com/2012/11/study-shows-grain-dryer-fans-should-run-mainly-at-night%E2%80%A9/ https://www.producer.com/2012/11/study-shows-grain-dryer-fans-should-run-mainly-at-night%E2%80%A9/

Producers who lack sophisticated monitoring equipment should follow Palmer’s “yard light rule” — turn fans on at night and off during the day.

Good thing the rest of Sask Power's customers are so generously subsidising your use of the grid for storage...

I think what is really interesting here is that Chuck2 is promoting his solar panels to run his bin fans but as the Country guide article points out the most effective use of bin fans is at night(I found this surprising) and therefore renders Chucks solar powered bin fan idea as totally useless. I also agree that in Texas electric power demand would peak during the day and therefore Texas would be a far more suitable location for solar power. My power demand peaks in December and January a time in Alberta with the lowest amount of sunshine.

[AlbertaFarmer5]

One group who thinks they know how everyone else should do things and really never get much accomplished themselves actually ......Left brain mentality.
The other group just does what needs to be done , knows how to actually work and thinks for themselves, right brain mentality, but gets scrutinized by group one while actually creating the wealth for all .
Group one just try’s to ride off the hard work of group two’s wealth creation.
That’s called deadbeats to society.

Yes , opened that can of worms lol ....
slow harvest again

You just described the "green energy" proponents to a tee. They don't produce anything useful, they tell everyone else how it should be done, the remaining productive members of society are forced to pay for their folly and of course bail them out and provide the useful energy required to back up their unreliables.

In spite of all the hype and money spent, wind and solar still only produce 3% of world energy, fossil fuels produce over 80%, hydro and nuclear the majority of the remainder). A similar ratio (and hype) applies to socialists vs. productive members of society.

[Oliver88]

Chucky, dear Chucky, I can fire up that combine everyday, all day because of good ol fossil fuel, I don’t wait for the sun to shine or wind to blow. Capeech?

I’m thinking Chucky must be thankful for SaskPower’s coal fired electrical generation powering up his fans 95% of the time.

The math isn’t there for a serious solar power setup in a cold climate like Saskatchewan.

[Guest]

I’m thinking Chucky must be thankful for SaskPower’s coal fired electrical generation powering up his fans 95% of the time.

The math isn’t there for a serious solar power setup in a cold climate like Saskatchewan.

especially when it won't work in sunny texas

[AlbertaFarmer5]

I’m thinking Chucky must be thankful for SaskPower’s coal fired electrical generation powering up his fans 95% of the time.

The math isn’t there for a serious solar power setup in a cold climate like Saskatchewan.

Who he should be thankful to is you and every other responsible SaskPower customer for subsidizing his bill every single month. You are paying substantially higher rates so that Chuck can sell his power to Saskpower for a few hours a day randomly and unpredictably, whether they need it or not, then they are forced to sell power back to him at the same rates, regardless of demand or supply or cost at that time. And you are incurring all of those costs for him. All of the spinning reserve, all of the load shedding, all of the additional and unnecessary infrastructure. He just doesn't come across as being all that grateful, considering how generous you all have been to him.

[chuckChuck]

Who he should be thankful to is you and every other responsible SaskPower customer for subsidizing his bill every single month. You are paying substantially higher rates so that Chuck can sell his power to Saskpower for a few hours a day randomly and unpredictably, whether they need it or not, then they are forced to sell power back to him at the same rates, regardless of demand or supply or cost at that time. And you are incurring all of those costs for him. All of the spinning reserve, all of the load shedding, all of the additional and unnecessary infrastructure. He just doesn't come across as being all that grateful, considering how generous you all have been to him.

A5 you are so full of made up bullshit.

1. There is currently very little solar capacity in Saskatchewan. So blaming the solar net metering program for having any influence on prices is stupid.

2. Saskpower is installing a whole lot of wind and natural gas capacity. Plus planning to import hydro from Manitoba to meet their goal of 50% renewables by 2030. Much of the cost of electricity is borne by the whole grid system costs and the maintenance, not the generation source.

3. Utility rates in Saskatchewan are regulated and reviewed by the Saskatchewan Rate Review Panel.

But don't let facts get in the way of your crusade to illogically blame renewable energy sources for increased costs.

Saskatchewan farmers currently pay less than the actual market costs to deliver electricity to their farms. They are hugely outnumbered by residential customers who are paying higher rates even though the cost of deliverring electricity to them is lower because they are concentrated in cities and towns.