Sad pic

[sawfly1]

It would be a challenge to return to tillage.
Remember quack grass .
Still haunts me the things I did before. No till.
You just can not go back .
Especially when you consider the light fluffy mulch
30 years of no till has built up.
You get an 02 or 1988 where untouched fields turned to powder. Like the Spring of 88.
That layer could be gone in a week.
You had better have some new chemistry or something.

[jamesb]

Of course some of it is resistant. How many times do you have to see the proof with your own eyes that chem farming is collapsing

It not collapsing. Some farmers are learning the hard way good management and chemical rotation. At farm meetings for years we have been warned about being able to keep more chemical options in the toolbox to be able to use. Abuse any one chemical group will cause issues down the road. Any of you every go to the old North Dakota Manitoba Zero till conventions ? Used to draw a couple thousand. Guys like Dr Dwayne Beck were talking a lot of years ago about crop and chemical rotation. Warm season and cool season crops. For me the issue with this is always been the challenge of prices and marketing of some crops. We are no different than most others growing too much Canola and wheat because it pays the bills. The bottom line is that in the long term the farmers who maintain a diverse rotation will be able to use a lot of chemicals with modes of action that will work. Good old 2-4D that my father used 60 years ago works great on a lot of weeds.

[furrowtickler]

Of course some of it is resistant. How many times do you have to see the proof with your own eyes that chem farming is collapsing

Go back in your hole , you have no clue as to conditions here at herbicide time .
Not one shred of evidence for gly tolerant wild oats in Manitoba.
How many times do you have to spread b/S from the other side of the planet and have zero clue about what’s actually happening in the fields here . Pathetic actually

[AlbertaFarmer5]

As far as the dry goes, I used to shake my head at the Palliser Triangle. How did he get it so wrong? It sound now like he came into the area in the midst of a very long drought. Kinda scary that some say it is pretty certain that there has been a 1000 year droughts in north America in the past. It is my understanding that there was basically no cultivated agriculture in Saskatchewan at all before the 1700's.
This is telling when you think that a lot of other places did see cultivation and not just a nomadic hunter gatherer existence. If the last 100 years has been an aberration and we will see the return to the normal, how agriculture will exist will change for sure. What will be decided if it will be growing crops or grazing livestock.

No doubt the cycles will repeat.

Not sure we will get the option to decide if it is crops of livestock. It would only take a few years of extreme dry, while producers keep attempting the status quo while waiting for a return to normal. With no annual crops growing, even without tillage, and no ability to establish grass without enough moisture, the soil may not stick around long enough to do so. Unless we get enough early warning, and are smart enough to head it, it could be the end of agriculture in the semi arid prairies.

[bucket]

I have tried tillage radish but an interesting point....it needs water as well...

[AlbertaFarmer5]

Really concerns you! Gee that's nice

It concerns me enough that I am willing to waste my time engaging with uninformed Internet trolls who would have us turn the clock back by decades by removing the tools humans have developed allowing us to avoid such a fate.

I was offering you the chance to share your wisdom on regenerative methods, which are a big part of the solution, but instead you revert to your usual anti-glyphosate rants, and childish insults. Do you have anything constructive to add?

[Guest]

It concerns me enough that I am willing to waste my time engaging with uninformed Internet trolls who would have us turn the clock back by decades by removing the tools humans have developed allowing us to avoid such a fate.

I was offering you the chance to share your wisdom on regenerative methods, which are a big part of the solution, but instead you revert to your usual anti-glyphosate rants, and childish insults. Do you have anything constructive to add?

There you go again with your strawman twisted arguments. You're simply too immature to leave your liminal space.

[Guest]

It concerns me enough that I am willing to waste my time engaging with uninformed Internet trolls who would have us turn the clock back by decades by removing the tools humans have developed allowing us to avoid such a fate.

I was offering you the chance to share your wisdom on regenerative methods, which are a big part of the solution, but instead you revert to your usual anti-glyphosate rants, and childish insults. Do you have anything constructive to add?

I cant believe anyone wastes their time with this thing
Over half the replys on his stupid thread are its own same rehashed bullshit

[sumdumguy]

We headed down to Plentywood yesterday, abour 2/3 of lentils done and a few wheat or barley. Only one field of swathed Canola. Water standing everywhere and summerfallow fields are solid thistle, where do all those thistle seeds come from, they must survive for decades?

[furrowtickler]

South Dakota under water

[grassfarmer]

I've heard thistle seeds can survive 20 years anyway, docks which were more of a problem in Scotland it's 50 years.

[malleefarmer]

Interesting fact that has been proven over last 3 years. Finding just starting to come out but hard for guys with all crop and no livestock component.

Glypho resistant ryegrass in australia lots of people freak out about but know literally almost hundreds who have got numbers down to zero.

Anyway a new tact is say a population with 80% resistance if left for 3 years with no glypho resistant plants drop to about 15% and 4 years down to about 8%, so for those years you graze and start crop cycle again after after 2 or 4 years.

Chem resistance was a bogey man maybe 10 yrs ago but farmers being farmers get around it and new stuff coming out all the time and different techniques.

Some scorching days ahead for alot of australias crop areas over next week.

Even in some of the worst spots some very very good no till farmers guys top of the tree have quite good crops considering rainfall.

Id like to think my crops without bragging maybe 20% above traditional guys but my next door neighbour a fantastic no till farmer fastidiuos about weeds and fert id have to say he might have 100 to 150% above district average. Been chem farming the longest say since 1993 or 4 i started in 2003.

Some organic guys have crops some have a dust bowl organic is so hard in super dry years. Organic livestock does work but no "huge" premium for meat but its veg and fruit and breads were they pick up the dollars. Sadly my organic paddock has failed but will perserve again with it to see what pans out. Thinking even the pig shit i spread may have had "new" weeds in it ive not seen before.

See by some replies your getting your knickers in a knot with dick milk guy just accept hes on a crusade put him on ignore list, same ole same ole. I doubt he even knows theres a drought in oz or a frost in many parts let him do what he does and he will let us just move on we know his thoughts.

Admin you should really have a block function or those who want to use it.