My vote is for sale

[bucket]

My vote doesn't have to be bought but I sure don't want it taken for granted either!

But it is....the conservatives fu cked primary producers pretty well and we condoned it... so the liberals continued to do so...

[Sheepwheat]

I am just making a wild guess here, but the candidate that promised farm subsidies, would not get much for votes other than from entitled farmers struggling to make their payments on multi million dollar iron and dirt that they were forced to borrow for with gun held at head.

Ain’t gunna work, cousin of Trudeau.

Like climate change folks, who believe there is apparently some pie in the sky ideal climate that should be stable, some folks in this commodities game think that commodities stay or should maintain a steady valuation. Prices go up and prices go down. Are we that shocked? Did we really think we could bank on 12 plus canola forever? Because in the past, as we all know so well, commodity prices were always stable and high enough to guarantee a living on a farm, right?

Yes, there are different reasons this time, self inflicted wounds caused by the boob in Ottawa, but did we plan our farms around forever high commodity values?

If so, I would argue that was not very good planning.

I could be wrong, but....

[furrowtickler]

I am just making a wild guess here, but the candidate that promised farm subsidies, would not get much for votes other than from entitled farmers struggling to make their payments on multi million dollar iron and dirt that they were forced to borrow for with gun held at head.

Ain’t gunna work, cousin of Trudeau.

Like climate change folks, who believe there is apparently some pie in the sky ideal climate that should be stable, some folks in this commodities game think that commodities stay or should maintain a steady valuation. Prices go up and prices go down. Are we that shocked? Did we really think we could bank on 12 plus canola forever? Because in the past, as we all know so well, commodity prices were always stable and high enough to guarantee a living on a farm, right?

Yes, there are different reasons this time, self inflicted wounds caused by the boob in Ottawa, but did we plan our farms around forever high commodity values?

If so, I would argue that was not very good planning.

I could be wrong, but....

Entitled? Really? Few few are . Sorry things did not work out for you. Bad luck and weather can take down even the best laid plans . Don’t belittle everyone because of your misfortune. Most of us have been through very rough times. But right now the numbers don’t work even if you have all cheap land paid for and run all older used paid for equipment. Let’s just look at reality here .

[bucket]

I am just making a wild guess here, but the candidate that promised farm subsidies, would not get much for votes other than from entitled farmers struggling to make their payments on multi million dollar iron and dirt that they were forced to borrow for with gun held at head.

Ain’t gunna work, cousin of Trudeau.

Like climate change folks, who believe there is apparently some pie in the sky ideal climate that should be stable, some folks in this commodities game think that commodities stay or should maintain a steady valuation. Prices go up and prices go down. Are we that shocked? Did we really think we could bank on 12 plus canola forever? Because in the past, as we all know so well, commodity prices were always stable and high enough to guarantee a living on a farm, right?

Yes, there are different reasons this time, self inflicted wounds caused by the boob in Ottawa, but did we plan our farms around forever high commodity values?

If so, I would argue that was not very good planning.

I could be wrong, but....

You can not take a price based on the american exchanges without proper exchange rates factored in and then not have the same top up the American farmer is getting....27 billionUSD and counting ...and think you are a competitive farmer...

Or compete against the FSU that has been building infrastructure while being handed our markets on a silver platter mostly due to the incompetence in Ottawa..

If your farm can compete against the US treasury ...good for you but it is the law of diminishing returns...

The market will sink lower and the US farmer will get another cheque from the US government...

Canadian farmers will get the poorer market prices and nothing....its stupid...

Could I be using 30 year old equipment ..yup and the repairs or parts could be adding up to the price of a newer one...because everyone is taking their pound of flesh...

[the big wheel]

Cuban, if you got any payment, fertilizer would go up $200/t over night and chemical would increase 25%

The vultures would pick that from you, and more, so quickly.

Why would they go up these are prices for 11 to 12 canola not 9 canola they should have dropped input prices already. One thing I want is someone looking into price fixing going on.

It’s like telling someone on minimum wage gee we can’t give you a raise because then you’d never afford to live. Lmao.!

Which political party you work for beaver dam because I ve heard that bullshit from so many mla s.

[Sheepwheat]

Entitled? Really? Few few are . Sorry things did not work out for you. Bad luck and weather can take down even the best laid plans . Don’t belittle everyone because of your misfortune. Most of us have been through very rough times. But right now the numbers don’t work even if you have all cheap land paid for and run all older used paid for equipment. Let’s just look at reality here .

Sorry I came across that way! Not my intent at all! Apologies...

[beaverdam]

Why would they go up these are prices for 11 to 12 canola not 9 canola they should have dropped input prices already.

Duh ! Because it wouldn't be a secret, if farmers received a windfall payment, and just like when natives win a payment of some type for some wrong doing in the past, car dealerships are licking their chops, and can see them coming a mile away.

You think your goin' receive a gov't payment in the tens or hundreds of thousands of dollars,,, and ag retailers and equipment dealers won't know??? FFS man.

The neighbour who rents you land will even know,,, don't be surprised when he says he wants a couple more bucks rent.

So many feed off farmers, and I'm not talking about the food we provide for consumers.

[Sheepwheat]

When we got a too wet to seed payment. Landlord wanted a piece of the pie, or lose the land.

[bucket]

When we got a too wet to seed payment. Landlord wanted a piece of the pie, or lose the land.

Interesting ...my landlord was happy to get his rent payment ...and hoped I would do it again....

[Sheepwheat]

Entitled? Really? Few few are . Sorry things did not work out for you. Bad luck and weather can take down even the best laid plans . Don’t belittle everyone because of your misfortune. Most of us have been through very rough times. But right now the numbers don’t work even if you have all cheap land paid for and run all older used paid for equipment. Let’s just look at reality here .

To be totally honest, the numbers DO work for me fairly well right now. And my land is not paid for. Iron is though. I get how they may not for sure. One guy may make money with 35 bushel canola, one guy may be struggling with 50. We need to be better at controlling the things we in fact CAN control; there are so few in grain farming.

My main thrust is to try and tell folks to be careful. We are not in a game where we have control over diddly. Look outside the box, there are many overlooked ways to farm. Many, many, many.