Gun Ban

[Braveheart]

Pretty hard to argue with success.
Years ago the Aussies bought the
Semi autos back.
Guess what no mass shootings
Since.
They have bad folks nut jobs too.
The last one had to go to new
Zealand to acquire the weapon to kill 50.

These types do not worry about stiffer penalties.
Most plan on dieing anyway.
The US has the most people in prison on the planet.
And a high gun homicide rate .

Just look at what works .
Pretty simple.really

Our most notorious killer 24 dead
LAPINE , polytechnic got his weapon
From his army reserve job.
The Norway guy that killed an
Island of children.
Military too . Access to weapons.

No sense those weapons being on the streets .
We kill enough here with shotguns and rifles.

If there are no limits on
Weaponry on the streets .
Then give em tanks or rocket
Launchers.
Then they can really do some
Damage

I can bring in more than one 80 year old (and a 75 year old retired school marm) with an 1873 lever action rifle that would make a mockery of your comments.

[Braveheart]

Yes. I was just replying to bravehearts mention of semi-autos only have 5 shot clips as my Sako 30-06 bolt also has a 5 shot clip.

Ruger Gunsite Scout and many bolt actions come with 10 round “legal” clips. Many are compatible with AR 15 mags.

Sako=nice gun

[samhill]

[QUOTE=TSIPP;424747]Probably less than two hundred shooting deaths a year in Canada.

How many are gang violence, how many are average citizens and how many of those in the prairie provinces?

Interesting statistics.

[sk_wheatking]

Ruger Gunsite Scout and many bolt actions come with 10 round “legal” clips. Many are compatible with AR 15 mags.

Sako=nice gun

They will have to be pinned at 5 rounds or they are prohibited. In other words you can have a 100 shot drum but it has to be pinned at 5 rounds. Now yes the criminals and psychos will bring them back to full capacity, no doubt. I mean really I'm with you on the substance of the topic, go down to cabellas and ask if you can have a couple 10 round magazines for your mini 14, or even your 303 British. It's just the way it is, and I dont have a problem with it either.

[malleefarmer]

From chuck chcuk basically exactly whats happened here no issues with our laws controls from rural people or hunters or guys at gun clubs.

I am gun owner. I still do some hunting and pest control. I am not advocating that rural residents lose their right to own legitimate guns.

[jamesb]

They will have to be pinned at 5 rounds or they are prohibited. In other words you can have a 100 shot drum but it has to be pinned at 5 rounds. Now yes the criminals and psychos will bring them back to full capacity, no doubt. I mean really I'm with you on the substance of the topic, go down to cabellas and ask if you can have a couple 10 round magazines for your mini 14, or even your 303 British. It's just the way it is, and I dont have a problem with it either.

With respect , don't ask the guys a cabellas as they are no experts on the topic.
http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/bulletins/bus-ent/20110323-72-eng.htm
these are the regs as they stand now

[Braveheart]

They will have to be pinned at 5 rounds or they are prohibited. In other words you can have a 100 shot drum but it has to be pinned at 5 rounds. Now yes the criminals and psychos will bring them back to full capacity, no doubt. I mean really I'm with you on the substance of the topic, go down to cabellas and ask if you can have a couple 10 round magazines for your mini 14, or even your 303 British. It's just the way it is, and I dont have a problem with it either.

Semi auto including Mini 14 have to be 5 rounds. 10, 20, 30 all pinned to 5 except, an AR pistol mag, yes there is such a thing can be 10 rounds and under the peculiar Canadian law these mags can be used legally in your AR15 or any rifle that takes AR mags, because they're pistol mags. Repeaters like pump or bolt action are often sold with 4-5 shot clips but for sport other than hunting such guns can legally have a ten round mag. Lever actions with tube mags are anywhere from 5-14 rounds depending on cartridge length and barrel length.

If I have a semi auto shotgun, legally it can take 5 rounds of it's legal full length shotshell. But take the shotgun I use for 3 gun. It's chambered for 3" magnum so, I can put only 5 shells (3") in the mag, but legally can load 6 x 2/34" shells in the mag, one in the chamber, and "ghost load" one on the carrier for 8 shots before reloading. Some 3 gun shooters use pump actions because they can extend their mag tube and load 8 or more and one up the pipe.

[sk_wheatking]

Ok, glad to be informed. I guess I didn't know what I was talking about, but that's ok. My stuff is all 5rd magazines except for my 9mm anyway. That's as far as the center fire.

On another note I see you guys like the sako rifle. I've never used one but I've always enjoyed my model 700, 300 Remington ultra mag. Not really thrilled with the availability of the ammo, or the outrageous price though!

[sawfly1]

Pretty simple to see that deaths
Correlate with gun numbers per 1000
Just about exactly.
Google it .
I know they are fun.
But I can pass up my entertainment
If I know that some whacko .
Does not get his toy to blow away a classroom full of kids.
I can walk down the street.
Pretty sure no one else has handgun..and a attitude.
And if I am stopped by the cops for speeding.
That the cop , can assume I am not armed and putting
His life in danger

[sk_wheatking]

When you and I are waiting in line to hand in our firearms do you think the boys from the hell's Angel's will be chatting it up with us while they are waiting to hand theirs over as well?

[GALAXIE500]

I don’t need one , no one does . But a gun ban will do nothing to prevent certain segments of society from getting them .
Will this gun ban be applied to every single person , including on First Nations ? If so I am totally on board .
Be honest with your answer and don’t beat around the bush ... simple yes or no .
Are the liberals going to go after major gangs first ? Again , simple answer, yes or no ?
Ban all those type of guns , but bam them from everyone.... period no phucking exemptions for anyone .

First Nations will be exempt. They are exempt from lots of other things in this country , and everybody with half a brain would admit it.

[Mjolnir]

There is different levels of weapons.assualt weapons are closer to hand gernades as far as a weapon than the type of guns used around a farm for deer hunting or gopher control.it is obvious that hand gernades should never be legal to buy yet for some strange reason people think an automatic weapon is a citizens right to own.

Automatic weapons are already prohibited and are not available for purchase legally in Canada. A semi-automatic rifle such as the AR-15 is no more dangerous than any other semi-automatic sporting rifle and if memory serves has only been used in one crime in Canada. The only reason it can’t be used for hunting is because it is classed as restricted therefore limiting its use to ranges.
You would know all of this if you took a small amount of time educating your self on the subject matter instead of parroting your lies. I won’t even bother with your ridiculous “grenade” comments as they are an obvious attempt at obfuscating the issue being discussed. I would imagine that you don’t know the laws governing explosives in Canada either.

[Mjolnir]

We also need to clear up some misconceptions about handguns. The only way to carry a concealed handgun in this country legally is with an ATC(authorization to carry) and the availability of those is so rare as to be illusory. Anyone caught in possession of a handgun without a license is committing a crime period, anyone caught concealing a handgun is committing a crime period. The fact of the matter is is that leftists simply refuse to prosecute/deport the criminals committing the majority of these crimes. When they are convicted they are simply let go with a slap on the wrist. Blaming law abiding people for this is simply morally reprehensible, blaming racism and poverty Is simply being lazy.
As to need? Sorry, you haven’t earned the right to tell me what I need. We live in a free country, act like it for once.

[Mjolnir]

What’s this? It couldn’t be the Lieberals favourite prime minister could it? Is he seal hunting with a handgun and callously dumping the empty cartridges in the ocean? Impossible I say.

[chuckChuck]

So no one has made a case for why they need a handgun.

If so few people legally own a handgun then banning them will be easy and then they wont be stolen lost or sold to criminals. Then we can concentrate on illegal imports and getting them out of the hands of criminals.

You don't get to drive a car without a license. You don't get to do a lot of things and you don't have a right to own a handgun if the government and law enforcement decides so.