They are going to plant 2 billion trees....

[bucket]

I dont think draining wetlands, breaking up vulnerable grasslands and pushing bush qualify as protecting the environment. Unfortunately some farmers still continue to do a lot of all 3.

In Europe some of the subsidy support programs are tied to providing ALUS. That provides a strong incentive to to follow BMPs.

Ducks Unlimited reduced the holding capacity of a series of lakes around here 30 years ago and now want to abandon their project and lower the lakes to a fill and spill without release to build capacity....DU /NCC are the worst ...

PFRA had vision and real engineers...their works lasted lifetimes and DU wants to destroy them....

ALUS if the same one I am thinking about is a Weston family government tit sucking initiative. ..

[sumdumguy]

Translated they wont recognize something we already do and Canada already has, so its put in schemes they know wont work, publish some bogus studies and the tax goes up next year. They don't want it to work. If they did there are a 100 better ways to cut emissions like halting immigration from warm countries to cold ones.

Good idea, move all the cold country goof balls to warm places like Maui. 👍

[chuckChuck]

Yes, so in other words, you disagree with private property rights. What a big surprise.

So you think it is okay to do whatever you want your land even if it causes significant problems for your neighbors? Drainage is the best negative example.

Where would you stop with your idea of private property rights?

Is it okay to put a toxic waste dump over your aquifer where you get your drinking water?

Private property rights only go so far.
Zoning limits what you can do in many county's, cities, towns and RMs.

The oil industry and mineral owners have almost unlimited access to your surface property and you don't have much say.

The government can expropriate your land for the "public good".

Individual property rights are given to you by governments.

[fjlip]

The government can expropriate your land for the "public good".

Not if a pipeline would do public good.

( please try to use the proper chemical nomenclature, CO2, carbon is black sooty pollution, CO2 is a colorless, odorless, beneficial gas).

All MEDIA is guilty of the WRONG terminology, just to spread the BULLSHIT! If CO2 was used dumb population would research and get informed! That and CO2 is NOT pollution, just repeat it enough, loud enough!

[AlbertaFarmer5]

Individual property rights are given to you by governments.

Everyone needs to read that multiple times, really let it sink in, and refer back to it every time Chuck espouses any of his socialist and green propaganda. This is the perspective he is coming from.

Spoken like a true watermelon. Some days, the communist red shows through the green veneer a little too brightly.

[chuckChuck]

Can you please try to keep consistent in your narrative.

A while back I pointed out the preposterous scheme in the UK where they converted a coal power plant to burn wood, then imported the trees from North America where we clear cut forests for them. All done because, by some warped logic burning trees is considered not to release any CO2. Of course, you defended the practice since trees don't store CO2, except temporarily.

Now you claim that planting trees is a good way to capture more carbon ( please try to use the proper chemical nomenclature, CO2, carbon is black sooty pollution, CO2 is a colorless, odorless, beneficial gas).

I realize you must agree with this latest scheme because Mr. Dressup supports it, but the hypocrisy really erodes what shreds of credibility you may have left.

Are you sure you studied engineering because you seem to know phuck all!

"Carbon is the 15th most abundant element in the Earth's crust, and the fourth most abundant element in the universe by mass after hydrogen, helium, and oxygen. Carbon's abundance, its unique diversity of organic compounds, and its unusual ability to form polymers at the temperatures commonly encountered on Earth enables this element to serve as a common element of all known life. It is the second most abundant element in the human body by mass (about 18.5%) after oxygen.[16]"

"Properties of carbon.
Carbon is represented by the symbol ‘C’ and is the 6th element in the periodic table of elements, with an atomic number of 6 and an atomic mass of 12.001. It is a non-metal and the fourth most abundant element in our solar system, only surpassed by hydrogen, helium and oxygen. Carbon can take the form of coal, charcoal, and diamonds, and also forms the major component of all living things including trees. At atmospheric pressure carbon occurs naturally as either a solid or a gas. The melting/sublimation point of carbon is the highest of all naturally occurring elements at 3550°C."

Only on Agriville would you find people who don't believe in protecting the environment and that don't think planting trees is a good idea.

[LEP]

Are you sure you studied engineering because you seem to know phuck all!

"Carbon is the 15th most abundant element in the Earth's crust, and the fourth most abundant element in the universe by mass after hydrogen, helium, and oxygen. Carbon's abundance, its unique diversity of organic compounds, and its unusual ability to form polymers at the temperatures commonly encountered on Earth enables this element to serve as a common element of all known life. It is the second most abundant element in the human body by mass (about 18.5%) after oxygen.[16]"

"Properties of carbon.
Carbon is represented by the symbol ‘C’ and is the 6th element in the periodic table of elements, with an atomic number of 6 and an atomic mass of 12.001. It is a non-metal and the fourth most abundant element in our solar system, only surpassed by hydrogen, helium and oxygen. Carbon can take the form of coal, charcoal, and diamonds, and also forms the major component of all living things including trees. At atmospheric pressure carbon occurs naturally as either a solid or a gas. The melting/sublimation point of carbon is the highest of all naturally occurring elements at 3550°C."

Only on Agriville would you find people who don't believe in protecting the environment and that don't think planting trees is a good idea.

I don't think he was saying that it was a bad idea. I think he was was pointing out your double talking hypocrisy.

[jazz]

Chuck are you playing with a full deck?. Atmspheric CO2 is the issue and it currently makes up less than 1% of the atmosphere.

You want to ban elemental carbon in the entire Universe?

[AlbertaFarmer5]

I don't think he was saying that it was a bad idea. I think he was was pointing out your double talking hypocrisy.

Obviously Chuck doesn't see any hypocrisy in simultaneously "believing " that clear cutting forests, hauling them to another continent and burning them in a power plant, and planting trees are both going to reduce our collective CO2 emissions.

Just like he can't comprehend how forcing our energy intensive industries off shore with taxes and regulations will increase pollution and emissions worldwide. Myopic is the only word that comes to mind.

[chuckChuck]

You guys are a laugh. A5 thinks carbon is soot! Jazz thinks I want to ban all carbon. Wow!

The issue is too much CO2 from the burning of fossil fuels (which contain lots of carbon) in the atmosphere which are causing global air and water temperatures to rise.

Forest, trees, grasslands, crops, soils and phytoplankton, are all carbon sinks (holders) which are part of the carbon cycle. More planted trees will hold more carbon.