If Trudope gets In again, are you Bastards Ready to Separate?

[samhill]

Many in the west would be nostalgic about Canada as it exists, a large, diverse, and beautiful country. They are patriotic. But they can see we have no voice in the direction the country is steered. A triple E senate was denied. Any strong well spoken leader could convince the west to separate so that we govern ourselves, manage our economy.
The east has more business earning wealth here than many of us realize.
All this talk of global warming and burning and taxing, not one suggestion of more rail lines and passenger travel in this great flat country. A subway in Winnipeg to replace diesel busses. Fewer airplane travel instead of fast fuel efficient train travel.
We could be a dynamo of ag, oil, hydro, industry efficiency.
We have leaders who could light the fire.

[SASKFARMER]

The separation I would love to see happen, and we join the USA. Like Alberta/Sask.

But we have some issues, and the native one is the main problem.

What I would love to see is Alberta and Sask have a vote that they aren't happy with the current constitutional set up of Canada and want to go on their own. We would win by some 70% then start negotiations with Ottawa and the rest of the shit hole provinces. Do what crying Quebec has always done. We want in or Out. At the same time, this vote happens to send a delegation to Washington starting talks to join. Its time to play hardball with the useless fools in East and Vancouver.

[Guest]

Dont forget the whole peace country/northern BC
There is a lot of oil , gas , farming and lumber
And most importantly tidal waters
Theyre probably as sick of this ****ing gong show as we are ?

[SASKFARMER]

I would say from thunder bay to northern BC and even the artic. Two provinces run the show.

[farmaholic]

I would say from thunder bay to northern BC and even the artic. Two provinces run the show.

"Two provinces run the show"??????

Now your beginning to sound like Ontario and Quebec.

[dmlfarmer]

you guys are hilarious. A few hundred thousand farmers and oil workers who think the world revolves around them believe everyone in their province agrees with their separation politics. Really, how many urbanites in the major cities - other than likely Calgary - do you think would agree to separation? Winnipeg and Regina both voted solidly against Conservatives last election. Edmonton was a close race in most ridings and elected both Liberal and NDP last time. Even Calgary elected 2 Liberals in 2015.

Lets assume you did have your separation vote and a city like Edmonton voted to stay in Canada. So if separation is just a majority vote, does that mean Edmonton could separation from the separatist Alberta thereby taking a million people out of your country, a million people who supply services and goods you need? Where does separation end?

If you guys would put as much work into solving problems as you do complaining and harebrained me first schemes maybe we would not end up with bottom of the barrel government leaders.

[the big wheel]

And so what would separation accomplish? As much as we re mad as hell and rightfully so.
So we separate would never be any oil go east maybe through north B.C. abut I wouldn’t bet on that either.
This is really about oil movement. The oil industry has brainwashed people Just as badly as the climate change by carbon nuts. Having oil is great for xcept the present formula for its value is flawed we’ve seen that here in sask. Some in the industry benefit hugely and that’s good. But what anout the rest of us paying higher prices for everything in pst to pay for the oil failed expansion?

As a farmer what benefit is higher oil prices for you?

The Issue of transfer payments well we have several conservative premiers we had a conservative majority. Is it true Andrew has stated he’s not going to look at transfer payments equalization? So what exactly are we separating from? ourselves? I think we’ve had dorks in our provinces our west who don’t know how to
Play the equalization game. We re broke in Sask yet not getting payments? How come? Can’t fill out the forms or don’t want to? Want to sit and cry about oil because that guaranties rhe west vote?

I’m the meantime what political party has said anything about a true disaster not a fake oil disaster but a true disaster and that’s the 2019 crop and rhe lack of programs or mention of payments for trade injury etc.
Where the fk is our conservative western MPs? Packing their bags to separate? They’re all losers spineless for not speaking up for everyone instead of sitting crying like crying puppets about an oil industry raking us all over the coals.

Truduea has to go very important he’s incompetent yes but what are we being offered for our vote? As farmers.

[farmaholic]

The current Federal "REGIME" is hostile towards the Oil and Ag industries.

I wonder how many pipelines would be built in the East if it was their Industry?
I wonder how soon a delegation would have been sent to China if China stopped doing business with an Eastern Industry?

This has nothing to do with "me first". Just fairness.

[the big wheel]

And rhe alternative is oil puppets and another regime that doesn’t hate ag because it’s all bout power for everyone in ag except primary producers so other than making a fool and causing India to cancel peas what is rhe benefit to us primary producers? Higher oil prices? Which by the way do you agree or not that we ve been gauged domestically based on what the world price was and is?

[farmaholic]

The oil and gas industry hire fracken people who make good fracken wages! I know some! All the money doesn't leave the country. You seem to have a hate on for that Industry! Land locking the extracted resource is cracking retarded. Relying on one customer is stupid. Buying foreign oil for Eastern Canada is senseless. We have GOBS of it here in the west. That dog-in-the-manger Eastern attitude is sickening, they don't want it so we can't have(benefit from) it either!

[the big wheel]

Agreed those in the industry benefit but tell me what benefit is it for us primary producers? And other tax payers for that matter if they don’t collect enough royalties to pay for its expansion like happened her is sask. You do realize PST on every last *** article we buy is paying for not even the future expansion but the last expansion that’s over?

Agreed should not be buying from saudis. But that’s more than a truduea problem that’s a First Nations problem also. Agreed or no? They’re slipping under the radar but they’ve been ***** around with this environment bullshit but it’s all about if they owned it they’d approve it. It’s another scam.

[sk_wheatking]

The news media here in Canada, is working overtime to get trudea in, and at the very least in with a minority of liberal along with green or ndp. It is blatantly obvious when you watch CBC what their agenda is. Ctv no different. Why the conservative government when in power didnt de fund the CBC is mind boggling. Why should they be funded for any reason anyway. Everything they offer is complete propaganda. They dont even try to hide it. I remember when Harper was in and that Terry milesky guy would shadow him around and then make his nightly editorial on him. It was a joke. I wonder why or how the news organizations have gone so left wing? Is it the indoctrination they have had from the left wing educational system we have in place now? Trudeau is getting in again one way or another and the media is working overtime to make sure of it. That black face stuff dissapeared overnight, all his groping has never been brought up, they make sure if they question him he has a scripted answer, and how about skipping debates? Could you imagine if it was a conservative regarding any of this! Then to top it off the conservatives run one of the weakest candidates they could find. And, on western separation, never going to happen. Would be too complicated, along with trying to get everyone on board. Never happen with BC, Manitoba and Saskatchewan are loaded with ndp and along with Edmonton so your done right there. If Quebec would have voted to separate they would have negotiated a deal for themselves to stay in, it would have never happened. Just a threat and they win if they vote to separate or stat in. How does anyone with an operating brain in their head think your going to separate without severe conflict.

Issues:
National debt share
Currency
National banking system
Criminal code
Military
Tax system
National police force
Government agencies of all types

I mean there's more but you get the idea. All separation is, is talk. Quebec just mastered it.

[bucket]

The news media here in Canada, is working overtime to get trudea in, and at the very least in with a minority of liberal along with green or ndp. It is blatantly obvious when you watch CBC what their agenda is. Ctv no different. Why the conservative government when in power didnt de fund the CBC is mind boggling. Why should they be funded for any reason anyway. Everything they offer is complete propaganda. They dont even try to hide it. I remember when Harper was in and that Terry milesky guy would shadow him around and then make his nightly editorial on him. It was a joke. I wonder why or how the news organizations have gone so left wing? Is it the indoctrination they have had from the left wing educational system we have in place now? Trudeau is getting in again one way or another and the media is working overtime to make sure of it. That black face stuff dissapeared overnight, all his groping has never been brought up, they make sure if they question him he has a scripted answer, and how about skipping debates? Could you imagine if it was a conservative regarding any of this! Then to top it off the conservatives run one of the weakest candidates they could find. And, on western separation, never going to happen. Would be too complicated, along with trying to get everyone on board. Never happen with BC, Manitoba and Saskatchewan are loaded with ndp and along with Edmonton so your done right there. If Quebec would have voted to separate they would have negotiated a deal for themselves to stay in, it would have never happened. Just a threat and they win if they vote to separate or stat in. How does anyone with an operating brain in their head think your going to separate without severe conflict.

Issues:
National debt share
Currency
National banking system
Criminal code
Military
Tax system
National police force
Government agencies of all types

I mean there's more but you get the idea. All separation is, is talk. Quebec just mastered it.

Now if you could get that down to just a 15 to 30 second sound bite....

[the big wheel]

The news media here in Canada, is working overtime to get trudea in, and at the very least in with a minority of liberal along with green or ndp. It is blatantly obvious when you watch CBC what their agenda is. Ctv no different. Why the conservative government when in power didnt de fund the CBC is mind boggling. Why should they be funded for any reason anyway. Everything they offer is complete propaganda. They dont even try to hide it. I remember when Harper was in and that Terry milesky guy would shadow him around and then make his nightly editorial on him. It was a joke. I wonder why or how the news organizations have gone so left wing? Is it the indoctrination they have had from the left wing educational system we have in place now? Trudeau is getting in again one way or another and the media is working overtime to make sure of it. That black face stuff dissapeared overnight, all his groping has never been brought up, they make sure if they question him he has a scripted answer, and how about skipping debates? Could you imagine if it was a conservative regarding any of this! Then to top it off the conservatives run one of the weakest candidates they could find. And, on western separation, never going to happen. Would be too complicated, along with trying to get everyone on board. Never happen with BC, Manitoba and Saskatchewan are loaded with ndp and along with Edmonton so your done right there. If Quebec would have voted to separate they would have negotiated a deal for themselves to stay in, it would have never happened. Just a threat and they win if they vote to separate or stat in. How does anyone with an operating brain in their head think your going to separate without severe conflict.

Issues:
National debt share
Currency
National banking system
Criminal code
Military
Tax system
National police force
Government agencies of all types

I mean there's more but you get the idea. All separation is, is talk. Quebec just mastered it.

Very true. We’re really basing separation on a crying oil industry separating does not move any oil anywhere any better.

[SASKFARMER]

BIG WHEEL then vote NDP or GREEN LIKE YOU WANT TO AND DROP IT>

We have a useless fool in Ottawa that is crushing every single thing out west.

Canola ****ED
Durum ****ed
Peas ****ED
So yea im more pissed off at trudeau than just oil