Does anyone remember? ????.....

[chuckChuck]

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Shaded area is Ritz tenure as Ag Minister...

Interesting graph. The OECD has around 36 members if Wikipedia is correct.

It looks like Harper and Ritz really cut support for farmers. Why have other posters not pointed this out?

At the time many farmers were asking for market based solutions to their economic problems.

At 8-10% support for Canadian farmers gross receipts, that indicates that most farmers net income comes from taxpayers.

While we are well below the OECD average we can lay to rest the popular idea on Agriville that Canadian farmers are not subsidized.

Farm safety nets need to be improved to deal with disastrous years like this one. Increase the support for small to medium sized farms and cap the support for the large farms as that will keep more farmers on the land.

We don't need more subsidized mega farms gobbling up every available acre and putting small farmers out of business.

[furrowtickler]

Interesting graph. The OECD has around 36 members if Wikipedia is correct.

It looks like Harper and Ritz really cut support for farmers. Why have other posters not pointed this out?

At the time many farmers were asking for market based solutions to their economic problems.

At 8-10% support for Canadian farmers gross receipts, that indicates that most farmers net income comes from taxpayers.

While we are well below the OECD average we can lay to rest the popular idea on Agriville that Canadian farmers are not subsidized.

Farm safety nets need to be improved to deal with disastrous years like this one. Increase the support for small to medium sized farms and cap the support for the large farms as that will keep more farmers on the land.

We don't need more subsidized mega farms gobbling up every available acre and putting small farmers out of business.

What’s small , what’s medium size ?
A medium farm is a 3000ac with one family .. but that is the same as 6000ac with two families, or 10,000 ac with three families .
Much like the CWB mentality, where everyone must be the same syndromes were born in Ag , you farm size needs much clarification.

[chuckChuck]

Doesn't have to be based on acres can be based on gross income.

I don't think taxpayers want to subsidize 40 and 50 thousand acre farms.

Those details can be worked out once you set the objectives of farm subsidies.

In proportion a lot of the subsidies go to the biggest operations in the US and Canada.

If taxpayers are providing 10% of farmers incomes in this country then they should have a say in how this money is allocated and to whom.

[chuckChuck]

Bullshit! I just don't believe taxpayers should be subsidizing mega farms and bailing them out. We need more people in rural communities by supporting smaller and medium sized farms. Let the big ones survive in the marketplace on their own.

[furrowtickler]

Doesn't have to be based on acres can be based on gross income.

I don't think taxpayers want to subsidize 40 and 50 thousand acre farms.

Those details can be worked out once you set the objectives of farm subsidies.

In proportion a lot of the subsidies go to the biggest operations in the US and Canada.

If taxpayers are providing 10% of farmers incomes in this country then they should have a say in how this money is allocated and to whom.

Where the phuck is all this subsidy money again?
And don’t say crop insurance, that has been debunked a hundred times on here and else where. In Sask we subsidize the province with this crap insurance scheme.