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    #61
    Originally posted by grassfarmer View Post
    Oh poor little Scheer he has such a tough life. Trudeau has all but handed this election on a plate and he still can't make headway. Maybe he was just an inept choice?

    At least Kenney was talking sense in a recent interview:

    "Let me be clear, not only am I patriotic Canadian, sort of in my heart, but I also think the whole notion of separation is irrational," he said Thursday morning on The Current.

    "Making Alberta a landlocked place within this continent, leaving the Canadian federation, leaving any argument for market access for coastal pipelines, leaving NAFTA as the broader market in North America, none of that makes sense to me."

    It's perhaps the strongest language he's used to denounce the notion of Alberta separatism, a cautionary tale he likes to sprinkle on his speeches from time to time."
    Why separate when Albertans still have the highest incomes in the country?

    Yes the oil patch is hurting and people are out of work. But there was an out of control boom going on for quite awhile that drove the loonie higher and put a damper on exporters and manufacturers in the rest of Canada. It caused inflation in much of western Canada and drove up the costs of labour and the costs for oil and gas production.

    But somehow some Albertans equate the former boom to how it should be all the time. We have seen this boom and bust economy in Alberta many times. The world price of oil and gas goes up and down. And oil companies come and go with investment. Alberta should try to diversify its economy away from oil and gas and invest more in industries that are not so cyclical.

    Perter Lougheed had a vision of sustainable controlled growth and putting something away for the bad times. Boom and bust economies are not great. He knew this. Lougheed was a true fiscal conservative.
    He wanted the people of Alberta and Canada to see long term benefits from a one time finite resource.

    Instead we got low royalties and governments that relied on oil revenues to to run core services and almost no savings for a rainy day or diversification. This is pure and simple poor foresight and bad management. What happened to the vision of Peter Lougheed?

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      #62
      Originally posted by Oliver88 View Post
      It looks like we will make a difference this election since the Conservatives will need every seat for a majority.
      How many posters live in constituencies that aren't always Conservative? Very few I'd guess, farmer votes won't change anything in this election.

      Just to encourage you to all vote PC did you see their election pledge re supply management on Friday?

      "to not put supply management on the table in any future international trade negotiations, and to deliver promised compensation to affected supply-managed sectors in the wake of market access granted under trade pacts such as CETA, CPTPP and CUSMA"

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        #63
        Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
        Why separate when Albertans still have the highest incomes in the country?

        Yes the oil patch is hurting and people are out of work. But there was an out of control boom going on for quite awhile that drove the loonie higher and put a damper on exporters and manufacturers in the rest of Canada. It caused inflation in much of western Canada and drove up the costs of labour and the costs for oil and gas production.

        But somehow some Albertans equate the former boom to how it should be all the time. We have seen this boom and bust economy in Alberta many times. The world price of oil and gas goes up and down. And oil companies come and go with investment. Alberta should try to diversify its economy away from oil and gas and invest more in industries that are not so cyclical.

        Perter Lougheed had a vision of sustainable controlled growth and putting something away for the bad times. Boom and bust economies are not great. He knew this. Lougheed was a true fiscal conservative.
        He wanted the people of Alberta and Canada to see long term benefits from a one time finite resource.

        Instead we got low royalties and governments that relied on oil revenues to to run core services and almost no savings for a rainy day or diversification. This is pure and simple poor foresight and bad management. What happened to the vision of Peter Lougheed?
        Maybe Alta could focus a bit more on the "cynical" nature of Agriculture than the "cyclical" nature of oil and gas....like bucket says, it fires up on all eight cylinders every year, although I detect a misfire in a cylinder, time for a tune up. An "injector" might need replacing. Inject a little cash to keep the facade of Ag More Than Ever alive, lots of parasites feeding!

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          #64
          Originally posted by grassfarmer View Post
          How many posters live in constituencies that aren't always Conservative? Very few I'd guess, farmer votes won't change anything in this election.
          Goodale’s seat is up for grabs as well as a couple NDP seats in Saskatchewan.
          Several seats in Alberta and Manitoba as well.

          It looks like Conservatives should win with a minority or majority so every seat will count.

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            #65
            RCMP source says ‘security risk’ against Trudeau was contrived by PMO staffers
            A retired officer of the Royal Canadian Mounted Police, who remains in frequent communication with senior figures inside the federal police agency, is telling The Chronicle that the widely publicized ‘security threat’ against Prime Minister Justin Trudeau on Saturday night in Mississauga was “largely contrived by political staffers” inside the PMO.
            Hoping to elicit sympathy in the national political discourse, senior PMO staffers actively instructed the RCMP on which equipment and weaponry have present, which uniforms protective officers would wear, and which security precautions would be taken at the private invitation-only Liberal Party event.
            Those conversations were initiated, the source claims, by political operatives Mathieu Bouchard and Ben Chin — both of whom report directly to Gerald Butts, the Prime Minister’s principal secretary, and Katie Telford, the Prime Minister’s Chief of Staff. The extra security precautions are rumored to have cost Canadian taxpayers an extra $135,000 that the RCMP had not already been planning to spend that evening — mostly for labor and overtime costs associated with the movement of heavy weaponry.
            “If there were an actual threat, the building would have been evacuated, and bomb-sniffing dogs would have searched the entire building and grounds immediately. They wouldn’t have left hundreds of women and children packed in a ballroom for hours,” he explains. “But the political staffers wanted to see him in a vest for the cameras.”
            “They were barely checking IDs at the door,” he said. “They were treating the officers on the scene like props, and it very much offended the top officials at the agency.”
            Shortly after the event, PMO staffers began pushing word of an unspecified security risk to foreign news outlets — including The New York Times and The Washington Post.

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              #66
              Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
              Perter Lougheed had a vision of sustainable controlled growth and putting something away for the bad times.
              We did do that. Quebec is holding it for us.

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                #67
                There are numerous incidents of threats against Trudeau and other politicians in the past news. Some resulted in convictions others acquittals.

                Where did your article or source come from that it is all a fabrication?

                https://edmontonjournal.com/news/local-news/alberta-rcmp-charge-man-with-threatening-prime-minister-premier-on-twitter

                https://saskatoon.ctvnews.ca/sask-man-sentenced-for-threatening-to-kill-p-m-trudeau-on-social-media-1.3716536

                https://globalnews.ca/news/5885813/saskatchewan-petersen-trudeau-charges-acquitted/

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by fjlip View Post
                  RCMP source says ‘security risk’ against Trudeau was contrived by PMO staffers
                  A retired officer of the Royal Canadian Mounted Police, who remains in frequent communication with senior figures inside the federal police agency, is telling The Chronicle that the widely publicized ‘security threat’ against Prime Minister Justin Trudeau on Saturday night in Mississauga was “largely contrived by political staffers” inside the PMO.
                  Hoping to elicit sympathy in the national political discourse, senior PMO staffers actively instructed the RCMP on which equipment and weaponry have present, which uniforms protective officers would wear, and which security precautions would be taken at the private invitation-only Liberal Party event.
                  Those conversations were initiated, the source claims, by political operatives Mathieu Bouchard and Ben Chin — both of whom report directly to Gerald Butts, the Prime Minister’s principal secretary, and Katie Telford, the Prime Minister’s Chief of Staff. The extra security precautions are rumored to have cost Canadian taxpayers an extra $135,000 that the RCMP had not already been planning to spend that evening — mostly for labor and overtime costs associated with the movement of heavy weaponry.
                  “If there were an actual threat, the building would have been evacuated, and bomb-sniffing dogs would have searched the entire building and grounds immediately. They wouldn’t have left hundreds of women and children packed in a ballroom for hours,” he explains. “But the political staffers wanted to see him in a vest for the cameras.”
                  “They were barely checking IDs at the door,” he said. “They were treating the officers on the scene like props, and it very much offended the top officials at the agency.”
                  Shortly after the event, PMO staffers began pushing word of an unspecified security risk to foreign news outlets — including The New York Times and The Washington Post.
                  Noticed last night on the news that the whole Trudeau family was at a rally in Toronto. I guess the security threat was over.

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                    #69
                    Originally posted by jazz View Post
                    We did do that. Quebec is holding it for us.
                    Do you mean Quebec controls the $18.1 billion Alberta Heritage Fund? I don't think so.

                    If you are referring to equalization? That is a federal program paid for with Federal taxes from every province. Albertans paid and pay lots of federal taxes because their incomes are higher than average. If you earn $150,000 in Ontario or Alberta you pay the same amount of federal tax.

                    Alberta also receives social and health transfers in the billions from the Federal government.

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                      #70
                      Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
                      Do you mean Quebec controls the $18.1 billion Alberta Heritage Fund? I don't think so.

                      If you are referring to equalization? That is a federal program paid for with Federal taxes from every province. Albertans paid and pay lots of federal taxes because their incomes are higher than average. If you earn $150,000 in Ontario or Alberta you pay the same amount of federal tax.

                      Alberta also receives social and health transfers in the billions from the Federal government.

                      That's wonderful. So when we have a rocky patch after the oil industry is shut down, we can count on those transfers coming back to us in our time of need until those green jobs get going or roughnecks learn to code. Unicorns and fairies are dancing on my lawn.

                      Not a fing chance in hell would that happen. Don't defend a program that has never paid a single dime back to its largest benefactor in 50yrs. Its a welfare handout to pay off Quebec to stay in the country while they squirrel away their Hydro revenues and shield them from the formula.

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                        #71
                        Originally posted by littledoggie View Post
                        Noticed last night on the news that the whole Trudeau family was at a rally in Toronto. I guess the security threat was over.
                        So why would the threat be over??
                        Did the RCMP arrest anyone??? Didn't hear anything about a big RCMP takedown in the media???
                        Did Trudeau buy off someone again, like he's doing to the accuser in the work place firing???
                        If neither of those things happened, then why would the threat disappear???

                        The whole effing thing was a scam to generate sympathy, and the media are playing right along with it, because of their hidden support for The Turd !

                        Canadians need to start to ask more questions about the media and how they are attempting to manipulate the public.

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                          #72
                          It worked too. Liberal woman at our Thanksgiving table voiced her disgust for the need for bullet proof vest in Mississauga. She was very distressed for poor Justin. I thought it was called a straight jacket. Guess I was wrong again SF3.😂

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                            #73
                            Originally posted by littledoggie View Post
                            Noticed last night on the news that the whole Trudeau family was at a rally in Toronto. I guess the security threat was over.
                            Mr Dressup just wanted to try on a bullet proof vest.

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                              #74
                              Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
                              Do you mean Quebec controls the $18.1 billion Alberta Heritage Fund? I don't think so.

                              If you are referring to equalization? That is a federal program paid for with Federal taxes from every province. Albertans paid and pay lots of federal taxes because their incomes are higher than average. If you earn $150,000 in Ontario or Alberta you pay the same amount of federal tax.

                              Alberta also receives social and health transfers in the billions from the Federal government.
                              Quebec hides their income through mafia style book work. The underground economy in Quebec is massive . Been that way for decades

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                                #75
                                Originally posted by beaverdam View Post
                                So why would the threat be over??
                                Did the RCMP arrest anyone??? Didn't hear anything about a big RCMP takedown in the media???
                                Did Trudeau buy off someone again, like he's doing to the accuser in the work place firing???
                                If neither of those things happened, then why would the threat disappear???

                                The whole effing thing was a scam to generate sympathy, and the media are playing right along with it, because of their hidden support for The Turd !

                                Canadians need to start to ask more questions about the media and how they are attempting to manipulate the public.
                                One just hopes come voting day reality hits , just like it hit Hitlary and all the left leaning media in the U.S. right square between the eyes in that election

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