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    #13
    Lots of chatter in markets that U.S. rates are now headed to . . . “0”.

    This suggests Bank of Canada may head toward negative rates like Japan and Europe within the next 18 months.

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      #14
      Do negative rates force the saver to look for investments that have a return??? Like farmland????

      $100000 dollar quarter of land returning the taxes and 3000 plus some potential capital gain looks better than negative rate....right????

      So there are some tools left for the global market??????????
      Last edited by bucket; Oct 18, 2019, 07:34.

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        #15
        Originally posted by bucket View Post
        Do negative rates force the saver to look for investments that have a return??? Like farmland????

        $100000 dollar quarter of land returning the taxes and 3000 plus some potential capital gain looks better than negative rate....right????

        So there are some tools left for the global market??????????
        Low rates have already contributed to asset bubbles over the past five (5) years . . . luxury real estate, art, classic cars . . . but these bubbles are now deflating rapidly.

        Manhattan real estate now under heavy selling pressure, due to vanished Chinese buying. Barrett Jackson classic car auction values have had a tune-up. Trade war tariffs creating heavy damage to markets (IMO) . . . especially asset bubbles.

        Stock markets continue to simply be a parking lot for money, being supported by corporate buybacks, not earnings. But the Dow now appears stalled out in 2019, treading water right now. There might not be a huge traditional crash in markets . . . rather a very long and prolonged sag in markets heading into 2020 and beyond.

        Farmland? Slowing global investment and trade tensions don't favor a near-term recovery (IMO).

        'The Great Financial Sag' is now underway . . . .

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          #16
          Originally posted by errolanderson View Post
          Low rates have already contributed to asset bubbles over the past five (5) years . . . luxury real estate, art, classic cars . . . but these bubbles are now deflating rapidly.

          Manhattan real estate now under heavy selling pressure, due to vanished Chinese buying. Barrett Jackson classic car auction values have had a tune-up. Trade war tariffs creating heavy damage to markets (IMO) . . . especially asset bubbles.

          Stock markets continue to simply be a parking lot for money, being supported by corporate buybacks, not earnings. But the Dow now appears stalled out in 2019, treading water right now. There might not be a huge traditional crash in markets . . . rather a very long and prolonged sag in markets heading into 2020 and beyond.

          Farmland? Slowing global investment and trade tensions don't favor a near-term recovery (IMO).

          'The Great Financial Sag' is now underway . . . .
          I’m not saying you’re wrong and do appreciate your posts but honestly how long have you been predicting this type of stuff? You’ll be accurate one of these years I’m sure. But meanwhile life will go on either way.

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            #17
            Regarding real estate, nothing is selling near me. Residential or farm. People have been living on savings for the last few years, depleting them. Maybe things will turn around after this election and once great industries can resume business. Money has fled this country for the US in massive amounts. Texas is absolutely booming.

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              #18
              Originally posted by quadtrac View Post
              I’m not saying you’re wrong and do appreciate your posts but honestly how long have you been predicting this type of stuff? You’ll be accurate one of these years I’m sure. But meanwhile life will go on either way.
              Actually reckon Errol has been very close to the mark.

              Commodities to be subdued.

              Whilst we all want better grain prices old be getting toppy especially wheat. Basis narrowing here in oz

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                #19
                can't go any lower here , below the cost of production

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                  #20
                  Originally posted by quadtrac View Post
                  I’m not saying you’re wrong and do appreciate your posts but honestly how long have you been predicting this type of stuff? You’ll be accurate one of these years I’m sure. But meanwhile life will go on either way.
                  quadtrac . . . You don’t have to look very far to see bizarre economics of runaway government spending and consumer debt and it’s devastating impact on our business growth and on the next generation. What I have seen is a slow moving freight train that has already crashed into an economic brick wall of debt. Central bankers are now ‘pushing on a string’. They are TRAPPED, and they know it. But you don’t want to spook the investor, heaven for bid.

                  Negative rates? Where did that come from? But everything is A-OK because the stock market is doing so damn good. But everyone’s net worth is now in-decline. How ‘s that hang together? And how come prices are deflating? That’s not so rosy. And negative rates only means there is a growth less future, particularly for consumers.

                  Yes, I have been breaching this for years as it could be seen from a long way’s away. What has delayed the impact is pure manipulation, not economic growth. We are drowning in debt, pure ‘n simple. And cheap money no longer works. And this reality has already hit and it is now hitting hard . . . .

                  The crash of 2008 has never been repaired in-full. Not a chance. The can has just been kicked down the road . . . Now the can has been kicked into the ditch.

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                    #21
                    Originally posted by quadtrac View Post
                    I’m not saying you’re wrong and do appreciate your posts but honestly how long have you been predicting this type of stuff? You’ll be accurate one of these years I’m sure. But meanwhile life will go on either way.

                    Easy preaching doom and gloom just like global warming fear mongers. Turns out they don’t have an f-ing clue but someday markets will sour and they’ll say, “I told you so”.

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                      #22
                      Originally posted by errolanderson View Post
                      quadtrac . . . You don’t have to look very far to see bizarre economics of runaway government spending and consumer debt and it’s devastating impact on our business growth and on the next generation. What I have seen is a slow moving freight train that has already crashed into an economic brick wall of debt. Central bankers are now ‘pushing on a string’. They are TRAPPED, and they know it. But you don’t want to spook the investor, heaven for bid.

                      Negative rates? Where did that come from? But everything is A-OK because the stock market is doing so damn good. But everyone’s net worth is now in-decline. How ‘s that hang together? And how come prices are deflating? That’s not so rosy. And negative rates only means there is a growth less future, particularly for consumers.

                      Yes, I have been breaching this for years as it could be seen from a long way’s away. What has delayed the impact is pure manipulation, not economic growth. We are drowning in debt, pure ‘n simple. And cheap money no longer works. And this reality has already hit and it is now hitting hard . . . .

                      The crash of 2008 has never been repaired in-full. Not a chance. The can has just been kicked down the road . . . Now the can has been kicked into the ditch.


                      Errol, love your posts.


                      You've obviously seen and heard about new world monetary policy... The stuff people like AOC follow, where a government can basically print money in an unlimited unhindered fashion as long as it's for the good of the people...



                      You're right on all the asset bubbles. If you can't see it here in Canada you're a blind dimwit. Land, housing, vehicles, machinery (not just farm) everything keeps going up without any correlation to its intrinsic value or its capacity to generate wealth.

                      There's so much fake money in the market it's basically like living in a 3rd world socialist dictatorship... but all the western countries are doing it so it's not as visible to the public.


                      Errol, in your opinion what's the best way forward for a business owner? I'm not talking ag alone, in general... How do you somewhat protect yourself from the coming fall?


                      Keep posting!!

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                        #23
                        Thanks . . . . How does a business from ag to making ball point pens protect itself?

                        Brass tacks is; if a business hasn’t already recognized big picture economic risks and implemented a money risk management program ie; dealing with debt load and risk, it is already too late. The market taketh and won’t get back easily anytime soon.

                        This was discussed at The Farmtech conference last year as a major risk. Bottomline, we are all going to be worth less one year from now unless you have the cash available to pick up deflated assets ‘pennies on the dollar’ which will ultimately begin the reseeding of the new economy. But this process will be very painful and could take years to complete this incoming business transition.

                        There is a huge makeover coming for the S &P stock index (IMO). Huge company turnover and mergers. There is a changing of the guard. The U.S. is trying to battle this change; but tariffs won’t change this outcome. True economics will rule, not bullying and manipulation.

                        Cash is king in my view, which would make any banker scream. Bankers are not going to enjoy this ride. Consumerism will have a whole different meaning for the next generation. It’s already started.

                        But for those able to take advantage of this deflating asset environment, there is huge opportunity ahead. And as for central bankers, they have created a royal mess. ‘Feed me now’ Keynesian economics at its worst.

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                          #24
                          Originally posted by errolanderson View Post
                          Thanks . . . . How does a business from ag to making ball point pens protect itself?

                          Brass tacks is; if a business hasn’t already recognized big picture economic risks and implemented a money risk management program ie; dealing with debt load and risk, it is already too late. The market taketh and won’t get back easily anytime soon.

                          This was discussed at The Farmtech conference last year as a major risk. Bottomline, we are all going to be worth less one year from now unless you have the cash available to pick up deflated assets ‘pennies on the dollar’ which will ultimately begin the reseeding of the new economy. But this process will be very painful and could take years to complete this incoming business transition.

                          There is a huge makeover coming for the S &P stock index (IMO). Huge company turnover and mergers. There is a changing of the guard. The U.S. is trying to battle this change; but tariffs won’t change this outcome. True economics will rule, not bullying and manipulation.

                          Cash is king in my view, which would make any banker scream. Bankers are not going to enjoy this ride. Consumerism will have a whole different meaning for the next generation. It’s already started.

                          But for those able to take advantage of this deflating asset environment, there is huge opportunity ahead. And as for central bankers, they have created a royal mess. ‘Feed me now’ Keynesian economics at its worst.


                          Thanks, Errol!


                          So you're saying for those of us that have realized this is coming... staying in a long-cash, no/low debt situation is best?

                          We've been talking about that in our family. We farm, but it's by no means a big part of our 'pie'... Want to leave a legacy for our three kids, and that would require some expansion of our business ventures... However at this point in time we've been staying with a "gut" feeling of remaining in a holding pattern for a few more years.


                          How would you protect cash, though? Having it in the bank is a money loosing proposition considering we don't get interest enough to cover inflationary action.

                          The stock market, IMHO is way over bought.

                          Bonds are risky?

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