NYT fake news,,, their hate is so strong, they can't help themselves.

[Guest]

Maybe you missed the fact that many Republicans leaders are also very concerned about and opposed to abandoning the Kurds in Syria! It may allow ISIS to regain strength. But don't let that stop you from blaming the Democrats and "leftwing media" LMAO

If you are going to condemn the NYT maybe you should get the whole story first. We know you luv Trump and he can do no wrong. But honestly there is widespread concern and disagreement on what he did.

"Some of President Trump's strongest supporters in the Republican Party, including South Carolina Senator Lindsey Graham, are condemning his decision to remove U.S. forces from outposts in northeast Syria in order to clear the way for a Turkish incursion. Graham even threatened U.S. action against Turkey if it invades Syria and attacks the Kurdish forces who helped the U.S. defeat the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria (ISIS)."

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/lindsey-graham-syria-troop-pullout-reaction-republicans-call-trump-us-troop-pull-back-betrayal-of-allies-today/

its ****ing hopeless
this is all they know , why waste western kids lives, FFS???
trump knows its hopeless , tell your bullshit to parents that have lost kids, YES ****ING KIDS, to these hopeless shithole countries

[jamesb]

ABC news was at it too. A full auto shoot in Kentucky was passed off as a Syria scene.
https://www.courier-journal.com/story/news/local/2019/10/15/abc-news-airs-knob-creek-kentucky-gun-range-video-as-syria-bombing/3976328002/

[furrowtickler]

I can’t believe anyone with a brain is following any of this shit !!
Can no one phucking think for themselves anymore????

[Guest]

Probably not the right move, abandoning your allies, but Trump is in a no win situation. All of the haters are blaming him for being a warmonger, and promising he will start world war three, yet when he continues to scale back US forces around the world he gets blamed for that too. It's not quite clear to me what a token force of 2000 soldiers was going to do to have any effect against Turkey's military might right next door if they wanted to move in anyways?

From Wikipedia:



And in case the haters hadn't noticed, the US( not Trump) is done being the worlds policeman, which the US haters have been upset about for decades, and now they are up in arms because they are doing what they said they wanted them to do to start with?

trump bad, trump bad, trump bad, trump bad......................

[Guest]

I can’t believe anyone with a brain is following any of this shit !!
Can no one phucking think for themselves anymore????

thats the problem furrow, brains are in short supply after they drink the kool aide

[foragefarmer]

Case + Furrow

If Trump is wanting to get all USA troops out of Middle East why did he just send 3000 USA Troops to Saudi Arabia?

Meanwhile gets USA Troops out of Syria! Maybe he just shuffling them over to Saudi Arabia.

The two of you should asked those parents of those Troops being sent to Saudi Arabia, since your are in agreement with Trumps actions!

[furrowtickler]

Case + Furrow

If Trump is wanting to get all USA troops out of Middle East why did he just send 3000 USA Troops to Saudi Arabia?

Meanwhile gets USA Troops out of Syria! Maybe he just shuffling them over to Saudi Arabia.

The two of you should asked those parents of those Troops being sent to Saudi Arabia, since your are in agreement with Trumps actions!

I could care less what Trump does. It’s the fake news reports on msm that’s the problem. Over exaggerating one sided stories like climate emergency and these made up stories in Syria.

[chuckChuck]

The Republicans must be falling for the fake news too. Lindsay Graham seems concerned.

Maybe Trump faked the pull out just to piss off the Democrats and left wingers and the Republicans?

When in doubt, resort to everything is fake news that way you don't even have to think! LOL

Its all a great conspiracy to bring down the greatest leader in history if not the universe! LOL

[fjlip]

The Republicans must be falling for the fake news too. Lindsay Graham seems concerned.

Maybe Trump faked the pull out just to piss off the Democrats and left wingers and the Republicans?

When in doubt, resort to everything is fake news that way you don't even have to think! LOL

Its all a great conspiracy to bring down the greatest leader in history if not the universe! LOL

Well 90% on this forum think all you post, type, paste is FAKE, so you are just like TRUMP, making it all up out of THIN AIR!

[LEP]

The Republicans must be falling for the fake news too. Lindsay Graham seems concerned.

Maybe Trump faked the pull out just to piss off the Democrats and left wingers and the Republicans?

When in doubt, resort to everything is fake news that way you don't even have to think! LOL

Its all a great conspiracy to bring down the greatest leader in history if not the universe! LOL

So Chucky do you think media using video from other events and lying about their content hurts their credibility? How can they be relied on as real news when they do this? Doesn't it kill all credibility?

Answer that.

[chuckChuck]

Well 90% on this forum think all you post, type, paste is FAKE, so you are just like TRUMP, making it all up out of THIN AIR!

That’s original. Maybe if you try hard you can up with a better put down! Lol

[chuckChuck]

So Chucky do you think media using video from other events and lying about their content hurts their credibility? How can they be relied on as real news when they do this? Doesn't it kill all credibility?

Answer that.

The video or photographs usedaren’t important in this story. Mixing them up is an error but we know by the news video that bombing and shelling are pushing civilians out. It’s a war zone what do you expect. The Kurds are under attack.

What’s important is the widespread criticism of Trump for pulling the troops out and leaving the Kurds, former allies against ISIS to fend off Turkey. Why? The US has never shied away from putting soldiers in hotspots before. Why did they go to Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria?

[LEP]

The video or photographs usedaren’t important in this story. Mixing them up is an error but we know by the news video that bombing and shelling are pushing civilians out. It’s a war zone what do you expect. The Kurds are under attack.

What’s important is the widespread criticism of Trump for pulling the troops out and leaving the Kurds, former allies against ISIS to fend off Turkey. Why? The US has never shied away from putting soldiers in hotspots before. Why did they go to Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria?

Just an honest mistake. **** me Chuck you aren't that ****ing stupid.

[chuckChuck]

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/oct/18/generals-donald-trump-military-criticism

General discontent: how the president's military men turned on Trump

Trump once based his cabinet around retired generals but his Syria policy lurch has brought unprecedented military scorn on his head

Ed Pilkington in New York

Fri 18 Oct 2019 19.18 BST
Last modified on Fri 18 Oct 2019 19.50 BST

James Mattis, centre, listens to Donald Trump in 2018 before his resignation as defence secretary. His mocking comments at a dinner on Thursday made clear that he had heard enough from the president.

Four-star US generals and admirals are a taciturn bunch: they measure their words, qualify their statements and guard their silence out of loyalty to the armed forces and to their country.

A torrent of raw military condemnation has been unleashed on Donald Trump, with some of the most respected figures among retired military leaders lining up to express their profound disapproval of their commander-in-chief.

The outpouring was exceptional, both for the sheer number who unloaded on the president and for the unrestrained language in which they put it. The most breathtaking words came from William McRaven, a former commander of US special operations command who oversaw the 2011 raid that killed Osama bin Laden.

In an opinion article in the New York Times, McRaven accused Trump of spreading “frustration, humiliation, anger and fear” through the armed forces and of championing “despots and strongmen” while abandoning US allies. The four-star admiral called for Trump to either shape up or ship out of the

“If this president doesn’t demonstrate the leadership that America needs, both domestically and abroad, then it is time for a new person in the Oval Office – Republican, Democrat or independent – the sooner, the better. The fate of our Republic depends upon it.”

That Trump should be coming under such sharp criticism from figures as revered as McRaven is all the more extraordinary given that Trump put those he called “my generals” at the center of his cabinet when he took office almost three years ago. He appointed Jim Mattis as defense secretary, Michael Flynn and HR McMaster as successive national security advisers, and John Kelly as homeland security secretary and then White House chief of staff.

Now all those generals are gone, and some are speaking out.

Mattis, who has largely kept his silence since resigning last December, made clear his disdain for the president in the form of a stream of jokes at a black-tie roasting on Thursday night. In his first public comments about his former boss, Mattis mocked the amount of time Trump spends on his golf courses and poked fun at how he had avoided military service in Vietnam by claiming bone spurs in his feet.

“I earned my spurs on the battlefield; Donald Trump earned his spurs in a letter from a doctor,” Mattis said.

The new sense of license to criticize Trump among military leaders originated with the president’s highly contentious decision last week to pull US troops from northern Syria. The sudden move has paved the way for a Turkish invasion that has put a prominent US ally in the fight against Isis, the Syrian Kurds, in mortal danger.

Several US generals and admirals expressed their disgust and bewilderment at Trump’s decision. Adm James Stavridis, former supreme allied commander of Nato, told MSNBC that it was a “geopolitical mistake of near epic proportion”. He said its long-term impact would be to cast doubt on the reliability of the US as an ally.

“It’s hard to imagine how one could, in a single stroke, re-enable Isis, elevate Iran, allow Vladimir Putin the puppet master to continue his upward trajectory and simultaneously put war criminal chemical-weapon user Bashar al-Assad in the driving seat in Syria.”

On the same channel, the former four-star general and battlefield commander in the Gulf, Barry McCaffrey, said the Syrian withdrawal was “inexplicable”.

“Mr Trump seems to have single-handedly and unilaterally precipitated a national security crisis in the Middle East,” he said, adding that the president had put the armed forces in a “very tricky situation”.

Trump’s former national security adviser, HR McMaster, agreed that the decision would destabilize the region and intensify the Syrian civil war.

But the key question is what the highest echelons of the serving military think about Trump’s increasingly erratic leadership. A clue can be found in the viral photograph of the confrontation between Nancy Pelosi, the Democratic speaker of the House, and Trump in the White House on Wednesday.

Pelosi is seen jabbing her finger at Trump who appears to be yelling across the table from her. Soon after the photo was taken Pelosi walked out of the meeting after Trump called her a “third-grade politician”.

Sitting next to Trump is Gen Mark Milley, chairman of the joint chiefs of staff – the highest-ranking officer in the US military. What he was thinking in the moment is not known, but he is looking down at his hands and his face is clenched.

Milley may not have the luxury to emote enjoyed by his retired four-star equivalents. But his expression spoke volumes.

[chuckChuck]

Just an honest mistake. **** me Chuck you aren't that ****ing stupid.

Trump obviously blundered badly. The media coverage is irrelevant. This photo that photo..... what difference do they make when there is no disagreement about the facts of the pullout or the stupidity of Trump.

When four star generals start criticizing the President maybe hard core Republicans will pay attention. How can anybody stand by this President considering his track record? He is a train wreck.