NYT fake news,,, their hate is so strong, they can't help themselves.

[LEP]

The Republicans must be falling for the fake news too. Lindsay Graham seems concerned.

Maybe Trump faked the pull out just to piss off the Democrats and left wingers and the Republicans?

When in doubt, resort to everything is fake news that way you don't even have to think! LOL

Its all a great conspiracy to bring down the greatest leader in history if not the universe! LOL

So Chucky do you think media using video from other events and lying about their content hurts their credibility? How can they be relied on as real news when they do this? Doesn't it kill all credibility?

Answer that.

[chuckChuck]

Well 90% on this forum think all you post, type, paste is FAKE, so you are just like TRUMP, making it all up out of THIN AIR!

That’s original. Maybe if you try hard you can up with a better put down! Lol

[chuckChuck]

So Chucky do you think media using video from other events and lying about their content hurts their credibility? How can they be relied on as real news when they do this? Doesn't it kill all credibility?

Answer that.

The video or photographs usedaren’t important in this story. Mixing them up is an error but we know by the news video that bombing and shelling are pushing civilians out. It’s a war zone what do you expect. The Kurds are under attack.

What’s important is the widespread criticism of Trump for pulling the troops out and leaving the Kurds, former allies against ISIS to fend off Turkey. Why? The US has never shied away from putting soldiers in hotspots before. Why did they go to Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria?

[LEP]

The video or photographs usedaren’t important in this story. Mixing them up is an error but we know by the news video that bombing and shelling are pushing civilians out. It’s a war zone what do you expect. The Kurds are under attack.

What’s important is the widespread criticism of Trump for pulling the troops out and leaving the Kurds, former allies against ISIS to fend off Turkey. Why? The US has never shied away from putting soldiers in hotspots before. Why did they go to Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria?

Just an honest mistake. **** me Chuck you aren't that ****ing stupid.

[chuckChuck]

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/oct/18/generals-donald-trump-military-criticism

General discontent: how the president's military men turned on Trump

Trump once based his cabinet around retired generals but his Syria policy lurch has brought unprecedented military scorn on his head

Ed Pilkington in New York

Fri 18 Oct 2019 19.18 BST
Last modified on Fri 18 Oct 2019 19.50 BST

James Mattis, centre, listens to Donald Trump in 2018 before his resignation as defence secretary. His mocking comments at a dinner on Thursday made clear that he had heard enough from the president.

Four-star US generals and admirals are a taciturn bunch: they measure their words, qualify their statements and guard their silence out of loyalty to the armed forces and to their country.

A torrent of raw military condemnation has been unleashed on Donald Trump, with some of the most respected figures among retired military leaders lining up to express their profound disapproval of their commander-in-chief.

The outpouring was exceptional, both for the sheer number who unloaded on the president and for the unrestrained language in which they put it. The most breathtaking words came from William McRaven, a former commander of US special operations command who oversaw the 2011 raid that killed Osama bin Laden.

In an opinion article in the New York Times, McRaven accused Trump of spreading “frustration, humiliation, anger and fear” through the armed forces and of championing “despots and strongmen” while abandoning US allies. The four-star admiral called for Trump to either shape up or ship out of the

“If this president doesn’t demonstrate the leadership that America needs, both domestically and abroad, then it is time for a new person in the Oval Office – Republican, Democrat or independent – the sooner, the better. The fate of our Republic depends upon it.”

That Trump should be coming under such sharp criticism from figures as revered as McRaven is all the more extraordinary given that Trump put those he called “my generals” at the center of his cabinet when he took office almost three years ago. He appointed Jim Mattis as defense secretary, Michael Flynn and HR McMaster as successive national security advisers, and John Kelly as homeland security secretary and then White House chief of staff.

Now all those generals are gone, and some are speaking out.

Mattis, who has largely kept his silence since resigning last December, made clear his disdain for the president in the form of a stream of jokes at a black-tie roasting on Thursday night. In his first public comments about his former boss, Mattis mocked the amount of time Trump spends on his golf courses and poked fun at how he had avoided military service in Vietnam by claiming bone spurs in his feet.

“I earned my spurs on the battlefield; Donald Trump earned his spurs in a letter from a doctor,” Mattis said.

The new sense of license to criticize Trump among military leaders originated with the president’s highly contentious decision last week to pull US troops from northern Syria. The sudden move has paved the way for a Turkish invasion that has put a prominent US ally in the fight against Isis, the Syrian Kurds, in mortal danger.

Several US generals and admirals expressed their disgust and bewilderment at Trump’s decision. Adm James Stavridis, former supreme allied commander of Nato, told MSNBC that it was a “geopolitical mistake of near epic proportion”. He said its long-term impact would be to cast doubt on the reliability of the US as an ally.

“It’s hard to imagine how one could, in a single stroke, re-enable Isis, elevate Iran, allow Vladimir Putin the puppet master to continue his upward trajectory and simultaneously put war criminal chemical-weapon user Bashar al-Assad in the driving seat in Syria.”

On the same channel, the former four-star general and battlefield commander in the Gulf, Barry McCaffrey, said the Syrian withdrawal was “inexplicable”.

“Mr Trump seems to have single-handedly and unilaterally precipitated a national security crisis in the Middle East,” he said, adding that the president had put the armed forces in a “very tricky situation”.

Trump’s former national security adviser, HR McMaster, agreed that the decision would destabilize the region and intensify the Syrian civil war.

But the key question is what the highest echelons of the serving military think about Trump’s increasingly erratic leadership. A clue can be found in the viral photograph of the confrontation between Nancy Pelosi, the Democratic speaker of the House, and Trump in the White House on Wednesday.

Pelosi is seen jabbing her finger at Trump who appears to be yelling across the table from her. Soon after the photo was taken Pelosi walked out of the meeting after Trump called her a “third-grade politician”.

Sitting next to Trump is Gen Mark Milley, chairman of the joint chiefs of staff – the highest-ranking officer in the US military. What he was thinking in the moment is not known, but he is looking down at his hands and his face is clenched.

Milley may not have the luxury to emote enjoyed by his retired four-star equivalents. But his expression spoke volumes.

[chuckChuck]

Just an honest mistake. **** me Chuck you aren't that ****ing stupid.

Trump obviously blundered badly. The media coverage is irrelevant. This photo that photo..... what difference do they make when there is no disagreement about the facts of the pullout or the stupidity of Trump.

When four star generals start criticizing the President maybe hard core Republicans will pay attention. How can anybody stand by this President considering his track record? He is a train wreck.

[jazz]

Sorry chuck, I care not what shills for the military industrial complex have to say.

Trump scored a big win here. He was able to get US troops out and extricate itself from the ME for good with only a small number if casualties. Way better than when Obama ditched Iraq and hundreds of thousands were killed.

And trump successfully passed the hornets nest on to Erdogan and Putin two guys who deserve it.

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world/syria-turkey-crisis-putin-now-owns-this-mess/ar-AAJ3Q0t?ocid=spartanntp Syria-Turkey crisis: Putin now owns this mess

[chuckChuck]

Sorry chuck, I care not what shills for the military industrial complex have to say.

Trump scored a big win here. He was able to get US troops out and extricate itself from the ME for good with only a small number if casualties. Way better than when Obama ditched Iraq and hundreds of thousands were killed.

And trump successfully passed the hornets nest on to Erdogan and Putin two guys who deserve it.

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world/syria-turkey-crisis-putin-now-owns-this-mess/ar-AAJ3Q0t?ocid=spartanntp Syria-Turkey crisis: Putin now owns this mess

Wow! You are definitely a "Trump can do no wrong" kind of guy. You are starting to make many Republicans look progressive! LOL

[sumdumguy]

Trump is doing what he was elected to do and looking after his countrymen, all of them. What a surprise, a leader who actually loves his country so much that he will take that shit and abuse day after day. All signs point to Republicans winning next election in a landslide.

[chuckChuck]

Sorry chuck, I care not what shills for the military industrial complex have to say.

Trump scored a big win here. He was able to get US troops out and extricate itself from the ME for good with only a small number if casualties. Way better than when Obama ditched Iraq and hundreds of thousands were killed.

And trump successfully passed the hornets nest on to Erdogan and Putin two guys who deserve it.

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world/syria-turkey-crisis-putin-now-owns-this-mess/ar-AAJ3Q0t?ocid=spartanntp Syria-Turkey crisis: Putin now owns this mess

Great idea. Let Putin control the Mideast oil reserves! LOL

You are very naive to think the US wants to not hold the most influence in the Mideast. Yes it’s a mess. ISIS was going to destabilize the whole region and export it’s terror paid for with large oil reserves. Let’s give them another chance!

[beaverdam]

Trump is doing what he was elected to do and looking after his countrymen, all of them.

EXACTLY ! That's what Trump campaigned on !

But when a Liberal supporter like chuckhead,,, you're not accustomed to having your leader keep his promises.

[foragefarmer]

Breaver, Sum, Jazz

All USA troops withdrawn from Syria are being deployed to Western Iraq and an addition 3000 USA troops are being deployed to Saudi Arabia.


No wonder you guys are Trump twitter followers, you don't even know which countries are in the Middle East.

Typical profile of Trump supporter's, easily conformed!!!