Political Mistake

[chuckChuck]

Chuck always has a revisonist history on everything. Yes cod stocks dwindled but they are cyclical too and foreign vessels were sitting off the grand banks fishing illegally for yrs and Canada did nothing because we didnt want to be too mean. So our people paid the price. All those fisheries closed, people retrained or quit or got pogey plus lots emplpoyed in AB. Thei kids went to be woke in Toronto and now cod stocks are back and no industry, but the foreign vessels are out there still. Chinese ship catch salmon, ship it to china for processing then back to Superstore to sell to us. What a ****ed up weak country we are.

The exact same thing will happen to oil. It will be shut down people and investment leave and then when we see we don't have enough to run our economy, the price will spike to $150 a bbl and we wont have anyone to get the oil out anymore.

It was a Conservative who shut down the inshore fishery. It was Conservatives and Liberals who were in power for many decades prior too the decline.

I agree we should be enforcing better management as we over fish the resource and destroy an industry that could be sustainably fished. But you are generally opposed to closely regulating any industry for the good of all. So please explain the contradiction.

[foragefarmer]

Taiga

"You have no freaking clue what you are talking about. I am in Texas right now looking at an energy boom while Canada sits this one out. This is 100% politics. "

Could it have anything to do with Heavy Crude being discounted by $16.00 a barrel @37.00.

When oil was at $150.00 during the Harper years, why wasn't more done by the Reformer then?

Helluva visionary Harper the Economist was, didn't even realize oil is a very circular commodity, and missed the opportunity. So let's all blame everybody else!!

[Oliver88]

Scheer was the wrong candidate with the wrong message. Until a leader arises with moderate hopeful views nothing will change. There are still too many remnants of the old reform party. Conservatism should not mean intolerance.

Liberals like Agstar continually tell us Clinton won the election due to the popular vote count.

Scheer had the most votes in this election. 🙀

[dmlfarmer]

Liberals like Agstar continually tell us Clinton won the election due to the popular vote count.

Scheer had the most votes in this election. 🙀

No he didn't. Scheer had 24,233 votes (Trudeau got 24,797 votes in Papineau riding) Unless you lived in Regina QuAppelle riding you could not vote for Scheer; unlike in the US where every citizen can vote for the presidential candidate.

If you are saying Conservatives got a higher percentage of the popular vote, then you are correct (34% to 33% for Liberals) but I would argue neither percentage is an overwhelming endorsement by public therefore I still prefer rep by seats won.

If we would have had proportional rep where seats are assigned by the proportion of vote the results would have looked much different with the Conservatives having a slim minority win. (party, seats won, vote percentage, proportional rep seats)
Liberal, 157, 33%, 112
Conservative, 121, 34%, 115
ND, 24, 15%, 51
Bloc, 32, 8%, 27
Green, 3, 6%. 20
Other, 1, 4%, 13

Think ag is doomed now, how about doubling the ND seats and adding 17 more greens to house while reducing both liberal and conservatives. That is what proportional representation would do. It would guarantee we would never have another majority government in Canada.

And this still does not account for the 1/3 of voters in Alberta and Saskatchewan who voted for a candidate other than the Conservative. So maybe proportional rep must be done by region as well so instead of a Conservative sweep in in the west those who did not vote for conservatives should also have proportional rep seats.

My point is could of, should of, would have....