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You can thank Doug Ford for losing the election in Ontario.
There is a lot of voters remorse with Ford.
And Scheer was stupid enough to run on the platform of $50 billion in cuts. He played right into Trudeau's plan for Ontario.Last edited by chuckChuck; Oct 22, 2019, 09:12.
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Originally posted by TASFarms View PostThe down turn in oil has nothing to do with price. It’s market access. The pipelines here are full. When the liberals got in last time they changed the laws on nonprofit organization to allow them to spend 100% budget on political activities. The liberals are working the Tar sands campaign.
The US doesn't need our oil as much now and can cut the price paid. But the underlying fall in prices is because of world supply and demand.
Alberta needs to diversify their economy, other wise it is like a one industry town.
We have seen this boom and bust scenario before. High priced oil attracted lots of extra production . especially in the US.
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Originally posted by chuckChuck View PostMany of the extremists on Agriville preach a lot of hate and blame.
The very negative attitudes on display here will never make it into a credible political movement.
You cant blame the downturn in oil and gas and the resource sector on politicians. Prices for commodities are set in the world market. The down turn started while Harper was still in power.
Climate change and environmental issues are too important to be dismissed.
Yep Trudeau is not great and we deserve better leadership.
But instead of wishing for the Liberals to fail, start working to find a away to prosper in the new reality. There are many opportunities for those who are willing to work hard and think carefully.
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Originally posted by chuckChuck View PostYou can thank Doug Ford for losing the election in Ontario.
There is a lot of voters remorse with Ford.
And Scheer was stupid enough to run on the platform of $50 billion in cuts. He played right into Trudeau's plan for Ontario.
Socialism great Chucky until you run out of other people’s money!
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Originally posted by chuckChuck View PostMarket access is a portion of the decline. Oil sands oil is lower quality and cannot be refined everywhere. We were too dependent on the US market and refineries.
The US doesn't need our oil as much now and can cut the price paid. But the underlying fall in prices is because of world supply and demand.
Alberta needs to diversify their economy, other wise it is like a one industry town.
We have seen this boom and bust scenario before. High priced oil attracted lots of extra production . especially in the US.
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Originally posted by chuckChuck View PostAlberta needs to diversify their economy, other wise it is like a one industry town.
What would like to diversify our economy to? You want coders in here? They are all in india. Like seriously WTF do you think will replace our resource based economy and don't you dare say those fing green jobs.
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Originally posted by jazz View PostLook at the eastern fisheries gutted by fed policy, tried to diversify, retrain, whatever and none of it worked. basically it was Ab oil patch and pogey for them. They have nothing and that's why they voter liberal now.
What would like to diversify our economy to? You want coders in here? They are all in india. Like seriously WTF do you think will replace our resource based economy and don't you dare say those fing green jobs.
The eastern fishery gutted by federal policy? How so?
Didn't John Crosbie PC minister of the Fisheries shut down the inshore fishery based on over fishing and declining cod stocks? Over fishing and other factors drove the fishery into decline not the federal government.
There is more to Canada than the oil and gas sector. If you can't figure out what to do, let the next generation takeover because you have run out of ideas.
Every time the oil boom busts its always somebody else's fault. It is a cyclical commodity at best.
Investors love to invest when the returns are good only to take their money and run. Hardly an industry to build a sustainable economy on.
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Originally posted by agstar77 View PostScheer was the wrong candidate with the wrong message. Until a leader arises with moderate hopeful views nothing will change. There are still too many remnants of the old reform party. Conservatism should not mean intolerance.
Seems Australia and USA maybe uk the last bastion of conservative thinking and voting.
Snippet fom news last night and quote “ Canada has returned minority JT govt one of e worlds true progressive leaders†hmmmm .........so does that mean anyone with onserative govt in regressive
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Originally posted by chuckChuck View PostMarket access is a portion of the decline. Oil sands oil is lower quality and cannot be refined everywhere. We were too dependent on the US market and refineries.
The US doesn't need our oil as much now and can cut the price paid. But the underlying fall in prices is because of world supply and demand.
Alberta needs to diversify their economy, other wise it is like a one industry town.
We have seen this boom and bust scenario before. High priced oil attracted lots of extra production . especially in the US.
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