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Originally posted by chuckChuck View PostThe eastern fishery gutted by federal policy? How so?
Didn't John Crosbie PC minister of the Fisheries shut down the inshore fishery based on over fishing and declining cod stocks? Over fishing and other factors drove the fishery into decline not the federal government.
There is more to Canada than the oil and gas sector. If you can't figure out what to do, let the next generation takeover because you have run out of ideas.
Every time the oil boom busts its always somebody else's fault. It is a cyclical commodity at best.
Investors love to invest when the returns are good only to take their money and run. Hardly an industry to build a sustainable economy on.
That was our fault , we had to pay
Same with the ****ing supply quebec managed sector, you need to give your head a shake
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Originally posted by blueversi View PostNo , no he doesn’t. I guess coal, agriculture, and a forest product mill in most every larger centre north of Edmonton isn’t diversity because resource based economies don’t count in dumb phuck chucks world.
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These libards wont be happy until all food comes from china(organic lol) , and all oil comes from saudi where they still practice fgm and stone women and people who speak out against govt are shot
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Chuck always has a revisonist history on everything. Yes cod stocks dwindled but they are cyclical too and foreign vessels were sitting off the grand banks fishing illegally for yrs and Canada did nothing because we didnt want to be too mean. So our people paid the price. All those fisheries closed, people retrained or quit or got pogey plus lots emplpoyed in AB. Thei kids went to be woke in Toronto and now cod stocks are back and no industry, but the foreign vessels are out there still. Chinese ship catch salmon, ship it to china for processing then back to Superstore to sell to us. What a ****ed up weak country we are.
The exact same thing will happen to oil. It will be shut down people and investment leave and then when we see we don't have enough to run our economy, the price will spike to $150 a bbl and we wont have anyone to get the oil out anymore.
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Originally posted by jazz View PostChuck always has a revisonist history on everything. Yes cod stocks dwindled but they are cyclical too and foreign vessels were sitting off the grand banks fishing illegally for yrs and Canada did nothing because we didnt want to be too mean. So our people paid the price. All those fisheries closed, people retrained or quit or got pogey plus lots emplpoyed in AB. Thei kids went to be woke in Toronto and now cod stocks are back and no industry, but the foreign vessels are out there still. Chinese ship catch salmon, ship it to china for processing then back to Superstore to sell to us. What a ****ed up weak country we are.
The exact same thing will happen to oil. It will be shut down people and investment leave and then when we see we don't have enough to run our economy, the price will spike to $150 a bbl and we wont have anyone to get the oil out anymore.
I agree we should be enforcing better management as we over fish the resource and destroy an industry that could be sustainably fished. But you are generally opposed to closely regulating any industry for the good of all. So please explain the contradiction.
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"You have no freaking clue what you are talking about. I am in Texas right now looking at an energy boom while Canada sits this one out. This is 100% politics. "
Could it have anything to do with Heavy Crude being discounted by $16.00 a barrel @37.00.
When oil was at $150.00 during the Harper years, why wasn't more done by the Reformer then?
Helluva visionary Harper the Economist was, didn't even realize oil is a very circular commodity, and missed the opportunity. So let's all blame everybody else!!
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Originally posted by agstar77 View PostScheer was the wrong candidate with the wrong message. Until a leader arises with moderate hopeful views nothing will change. There are still too many remnants of the old reform party. Conservatism should not mean intolerance.
Scheer had the most votes in this election. 🙀
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Originally posted by Oliver88 View PostLiberals like Agstar continually tell us Clinton won the election due to the popular vote count.
Scheer had the most votes in this election. 🙀
If you are saying Conservatives got a higher percentage of the popular vote, then you are correct (34% to 33% for Liberals) but I would argue neither percentage is an overwhelming endorsement by public therefore I still prefer rep by seats won.
If we would have had proportional rep where seats are assigned by the proportion of vote the results would have looked much different with the Conservatives having a slim minority win. (party, seats won, vote percentage, proportional rep seats)
Liberal, 157, 33%, 112
Conservative, 121, 34%, 115
ND, 24, 15%, 51
Bloc, 32, 8%, 27
Green, 3, 6%. 20
Other, 1, 4%, 13
Think ag is doomed now, how about doubling the ND seats and adding 17 more greens to house while reducing both liberal and conservatives. That is what proportional representation would do. It would guarantee we would never have another majority government in Canada.
And this still does not account for the 1/3 of voters in Alberta and Saskatchewan who voted for a candidate other than the Conservative. So maybe proportional rep must be done by region as well so instead of a Conservative sweep in in the west those who did not vote for conservatives should also have proportional rep seats.
My point is could of, should of, would have....
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