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    #31
    https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/fiscal-stabilization-program-reform-proposal-bev-dahlby-1.5190829

    Why this economist says equalization reform isn't the answer if Alberta wants help during its busts

    Revised fiscal stabilization program would hold most promise for the province, Bev Dahlby argues
    Robson Fletcher · CBC News · Posted: Jun 26, 2019 12:57 PM MT | Last Updated: June 26

    University of Calgary economist Bev Dahlby speaks to reporters about his proposal for reforming Canada's fiscal stabilization program. (School of Public Policy)

    Many Albertans have long complained that Canada's equalization system isn't there for them when their province goes through an economic bust.

    But a University of Calgary economist says calls for reform should be focused, instead, on a lesser known federal program of wealth distribution.

    "What Albertans should really complain about is the fiscal stabilization program, which is meant to be a form of insurance for provinces whose economies experience economic shocks," School of Public Policy research director Bev Dahlby writes in a policy paper released Wednesday.

    "In reality, it is an insurance policy that has been designed so that it barely pays anything to Alberta."

    Alberta received about $250 million from the program in 2016, but Dahlby is calling for the system to be changed in a manner that would have seen the province receive roughly 10 times that amount.
    How the stabilization program works now

    Under the current rules, a province can apply for financial assistance if its non-resource revenues decline by more than five per cent from one year to the next.

    Payments are also capped based on population, with a maximum of $60 per person.

    And assistance is not automatic; it must be approved on a case-by-case basis by the federal government.

    Alberta gets $250M in federal cash to help ailing economy

    This also prevents abuse of the system, which Ottawa says is meant to apply only in what it deems to be "extraordinary" economic situations.

    "The program compensates for year-over-year revenue declines due to economic downturns, not for declines due to provincial decisions to reduce taxes," the Department of Finance specifically states.

    In other words, provinces can't sabotage their own finances — say, by slashing taxes one year to sink their revenues enough to qualify for assistance — and then simply expect the federal program to make up the difference.

    Dahlby is calling for major reforms to the eligibility criteria and a different way of avoiding abuse.
    Preventing 'fiscal arson'

    For starters, he wants to see the $60-per-person cap removed and resource revenues included in the eligibility criteria.

    Instead of making year-to-year financial comparisons, he also suggests contrasting a given fiscal year against the previous, five-year average.

    He also wants a funding formula to be established so that assistance is automatic, rather than based on an application process. This would "streamline" the process, speed up payments and avoid political controversy, he says.

    The fiscal stabilization program should be reformed to ensure that it actually provides adequate levels of insurance to the resource-dependent provinces.

    - Bev Dahlby

    Automatic assistance would also create the need for different safeguards against "fiscal arson," he admits. But he says this could be accomplished by effectively setting "deductibles" and limiting coverage in such a way that would dissuade a province from "burning down its home to collect insurance."

    He proposes three possible methods to do this.

    Method A (the least generous of his proposals) would include a five-per-cent "deductible" and a 50-per-cent coverage rate for losses beyond that deductible.

    "In other words," Dahlby writes, "only reductions in annual own-source revenues in excess of five per cent of the average own-source revenue over the previous five years would be eligible for a payment and only 50 per cent of that would be covered."

    Method B would also include a five-per-cent deductible, but with a 75-per-cent coverage rate.

    And Method C would have a lower deductible — just three per cent — along with a lower coverage rate of 66 per cent.
    How would these changes affect Alberta?

    Dahlby calculates these methods would have resulted in much more financial support for Alberta during its recent economic downturn.

    Remember: the province received roughly $250 million under the current fiscal stabilization program in 2016.

    Under Dahlby's proposals, Alberta would have received $2.1 billion under Method A, $3.1 billion under Method B or $3.2 billion under Method C.

    The following year, it would have received even more: between $2.8 billion and $4.2 billion, depending on the calculation method.

    Provinces like Saskatchewan and Newfoundland and Labrador, which also experience booms and busts related to the prices of oil and gas, would also receive more federal funds during downturns under this approach, Dahlby notes.

    He suggests such a system would be a more effective "insurance policy" for provinces that rely heavily on volatile natural-resource markets and, as such, their lobbying efforts would be better directed at reforming the stabilization program than Canada's system of equalization payments.

    "While it is true that the equalization program needs reform, that program was never meant to help a province such as Alberta, where GDP per capita and household incomes are above the national average, even in times when its economy shrinks," he writes.

    "Alberta and the other resource-rich provinces should also pressure the federal government to reform the fiscal stabilization program in order to address their concerns about the lack of federal support in the wake of the downturn in the oil and gas sector."

    Dahlby also sits on the expert panel appointed by Premier Jason Kenney that is tasked with offering advice to the Alberta government on how to balance its budget without raising taxes.

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      #32
      Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
      https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/fiscal-stabilization-program-reform-proposal-bev-dahlby-1.5190829

      Why this economist says equalization reform isn't the answer if Alberta wants help during its busts

      Revised fiscal stabilization program would hold most promise for the province, Bev Dahlby argues
      Robson Fletcher · CBC News · Posted: Jun 26, 2019 12:57 PM MT | Last Updated: June 26

      University of Calgary economist Bev Dahlby speaks to reporters about his proposal for reforming Canada's fiscal stabilization program. (School of Public Policy)

      Many Albertans have long complained that Canada's equalization system isn't there for them when their province goes through an economic bust.

      But a University of Calgary economist says calls for reform should be focused, instead, on a lesser known federal program of wealth distribution.

      "What Albertans should really complain about is the fiscal stabilization program, which is meant to be a form of insurance for provinces whose economies experience economic shocks," School of Public Policy research director Bev Dahlby writes in a policy paper released Wednesday.

      "In reality, it is an insurance policy that has been designed so that it barely pays anything to Alberta."

      Alberta received about $250 million from the program in 2016, but Dahlby is calling for the system to be changed in a manner that would have seen the province receive roughly 10 times that amount.
      How the stabilization program works now

      Under the current rules, a province can apply for financial assistance if its non-resource revenues decline by more than five per cent from one year to the next.

      Payments are also capped based on population, with a maximum of $60 per person.

      And assistance is not automatic; it must be approved on a case-by-case basis by the federal government.

      Alberta gets $250M in federal cash to help ailing economy

      This also prevents abuse of the system, which Ottawa says is meant to apply only in what it deems to be "extraordinary" economic situations.

      "The program compensates for year-over-year revenue declines due to economic downturns, not for declines due to provincial decisions to reduce taxes," the Department of Finance specifically states.

      In other words, provinces can't sabotage their own finances — say, by slashing taxes one year to sink their revenues enough to qualify for assistance — and then simply expect the federal program to make up the difference.

      Dahlby is calling for major reforms to the eligibility criteria and a different way of avoiding abuse.
      Preventing 'fiscal arson'

      For starters, he wants to see the $60-per-person cap removed and resource revenues included in the eligibility criteria.

      Instead of making year-to-year financial comparisons, he also suggests contrasting a given fiscal year against the previous, five-year average.

      He also wants a funding formula to be established so that assistance is automatic, rather than based on an application process. This would "streamline" the process, speed up payments and avoid political controversy, he says.

      The fiscal stabilization program should be reformed to ensure that it actually provides adequate levels of insurance to the resource-dependent provinces.

      - Bev Dahlby

      Automatic assistance would also create the need for different safeguards against "fiscal arson," he admits. But he says this could be accomplished by effectively setting "deductibles" and limiting coverage in such a way that would dissuade a province from "burning down its home to collect insurance."

      He proposes three possible methods to do this.

      Method A (the least generous of his proposals) would include a five-per-cent "deductible" and a 50-per-cent coverage rate for losses beyond that deductible.

      "In other words," Dahlby writes, "only reductions in annual own-source revenues in excess of five per cent of the average own-source revenue over the previous five years would be eligible for a payment and only 50 per cent of that would be covered."

      Method B would also include a five-per-cent deductible, but with a 75-per-cent coverage rate.

      And Method C would have a lower deductible — just three per cent — along with a lower coverage rate of 66 per cent.
      How would these changes affect Alberta?

      Dahlby calculates these methods would have resulted in much more financial support for Alberta during its recent economic downturn.

      Remember: the province received roughly $250 million under the current fiscal stabilization program in 2016.

      Under Dahlby's proposals, Alberta would have received $2.1 billion under Method A, $3.1 billion under Method B or $3.2 billion under Method C.

      The following year, it would have received even more: between $2.8 billion and $4.2 billion, depending on the calculation method.

      Provinces like Saskatchewan and Newfoundland and Labrador, which also experience booms and busts related to the prices of oil and gas, would also receive more federal funds during downturns under this approach, Dahlby notes.

      He suggests such a system would be a more effective "insurance policy" for provinces that rely heavily on volatile natural-resource markets and, as such, their lobbying efforts would be better directed at reforming the stabilization program than Canada's system of equalization payments.

      "While it is true that the equalization program needs reform, that program was never meant to help a province such as Alberta, where GDP per capita and household incomes are above the national average, even in times when its economy shrinks," he writes.

      "Alberta and the other resource-rich provinces should also pressure the federal government to reform the fiscal stabilization program in order to address their concerns about the lack of federal support in the wake of the downturn in the oil and gas sector."

      Dahlby also sits on the expert panel appointed by Premier Jason Kenney that is tasked with offering advice to the Alberta government on how to balance its budget without raising taxes.
      Where do you find time to dig this shit up ?

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        #33
        Originally posted by 6V53 View Post
        Was at a Press Gallery Dinner and was satire for the Press.

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          #34
          Originally posted by furrowtickler View Post
          Where do you find time to dig this shit up ?
          Lots of information on equalization and some on the federal stabilization program on the internet. The article posted comes from the CBC but is based on work by

          University of Calgary economist Bev Dahlby speaks to reporters about his proposal for reforming Canada's fiscal stabilization program. (School of Public Policy)

          Dahlby also sits on the expert panel appointed by Premier Jason Kenney that is tasked with offering advice to the Alberta government on how to balance its budget without raising taxes.

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            #35
            The next paper or study chuck reports should be proof that he is an actual grain farmer on the Canadian prairies.

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              #36
              Jazz why are you worrying about me? Why not focus on the issue? I am a farmer but it doesn't matter if I am not.

              The article from the U of C economist Bev Dahlby is all about how to help Alberta by reforming the fiscal stabilization program that could help offset the declines in the price of oil and gas which are not in the control of any politician.

              World benchmark prices for crude have fallen around 20% in the last 10 months or so. Do you think Trudeau has any influence over world crude prices?

              Alberta has seen numerous booms and busts in the energy industry during the tenure of many federal Liberal and Conservative governments.

              Also, Jason Kenney has Bev Dahlby offering advice to the Alberta government on how to balance its budget without raising taxes.
              Last edited by chuckChuck; Oct 25, 2019, 06:51.

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                #37
                Not building two pipelines to reach markets whether it be TMX or northern Gateway...is the direct result of political interference....it is politicians fault....period.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by bucket View Post
                  Not building two pipelines to reach markets whether it be TMX or northern Gateway...is the direct result of political interference....it is politicians fault....period.
                  Trudeau still wants TMX2. Line 3 and Keystone XL are held up in the US.

                  The question is do you invest billions in a another pipeline that is supposed to last 40 years or more when in 40 years oil demand may go into serious decline and especially if oil sands oil is not wanted?

                  LNG exports may be a much better investment.

                  Low world oil prices are the biggest issue facing oil companies.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
                    Trudeau still wants TMX2. Line 3 and Keystone XL are held up in the US.

                    The question is do you invest billions in a another pipeline that is supposed to last 40 years or more when in 40 years oil demand may go into serious decline and especially if oil sands oil is not wanted?

                    LNG exports may be a much better investment.

                    Low world oil prices are the biggest issue facing oil companies.
                    LNG investment has left this country and it is politician's fault as well...

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by bucket View Post
                      LNG investment has left this country and it is politician's fault as well...
                      $40B LNG project in northern B.C. gets go-ahead
                      https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/kitimat-lng-canada-1.4845831

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                        #41
                        Originally posted by wiseguy
                        Chucky get lost !

                        This is a Farming and commodity marketing site !

                        Not a university lecture !
                        Oil is a commodity.

                        And many other posters comment on politics. So what is your point!

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                          #42
                          Originally posted by wiseguy
                          A comment is ok but a political lecture everyday from you is annoying as hell !
                          Especially if you don't agree with what I say! LOL

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                            #43
                            Originally posted by wiseguy
                            chucky go lecture at the university !
                            Good to see that his input is admired so much that it's deemed to be university standard even by those who don't like his subject material!

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                              #44
                              Originally posted by wiseguy
                              I don't want hear what a university economist has to say !

                              Keep your cut and paste articles to yourself !
                              Why the frick not? Would you rather get your economic analysis from average joes who don't even understand the basic programs? Give your head a shake.

                              Do you hire your plumber to do surgery?

                              Kenney seeks the advice of specialists. You should be interested to know what they say. Or would you rather stay uninformed?

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                                #45
                                Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
                                Do you hire your plumber to do surgery?
                                An economist is not equivalent to a surgeon. They are career academics with no real world experience and they are often part of lobby groups to influence political outcomes. My plumber and surgeon have never joined a lobby group or been paid outside consulting fees to arrive at foregone conclusions. Economists opinions are pure garbage as witnessed by the numerous financial meltdowns we have had. If your plumber filled your basement with shit or your surgeon cause you to hemorrhage on the op table, they be wouldnt trusted again.

                                Anyone that quotes CBC or the IPCC is a lost soul incapable of rational thought and looking to regurgitate anything to fit their own narrative even if the evidence is contrary. We see woke lefties doing this all the time. Doubling down.

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