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    #16
    Originally posted by jazz View Post
    Kenny should make a visit right to the white house and don't even tell skippy. That will make eastern heads melt.
    This right here.

    Nobody takes the first bid offered. Shop around. Tell Trump what Alberta offers and what the US can do to sweeten the deal to join. Then hold a referendum and let the voters decide. Fuuck Trudeau and the East altogether.

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      #17
      Chuck and Grass where’s the cut and pastes. Server go down in Moms basement and can’t upload more contradictory info. Waiting for your rebuttal

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        #18
        -Cap and trade for emissions
        -Buying ‘carbon credits’ to supposedly offset your flying (Trudeau/Liberals)

        What a friggen joke, who believes this crap is real?!

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          #19
          Originally posted by FarmJunkie View Post
          Chuck and Grass where’s the cut and pastes. Server go down in Moms basement and can’t upload more contradictory info. Waiting for your rebuttal
          We got them "over a barrel"...

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            #20
            Someone with more details could make a short list of Quebec Hydro gifts from the start.
            I believe all others pale.

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              #21
              "The United States federal government is suing California and other state entities, accusing them of trying to conduct their own foreign policy with Quebec by entering into a climate agreement.

              “The state of California has veered outside of its proper constitutional lane to enter into an international emissions agreement. The power to enter into such agreements is reserved to the federal government, which must be able to speak with one voice in the area of U.S. foreign policy,” said Assistant Attorney General Jeffrey Bossert Clark in a statement."

              Do you think this constitutional disagreement will be settled before either Trump resigns, is impeached or loses in 2020?

              Isn't this a case of the President trying to tell the State of California what to do? I thought you guys were opposed to Trudeau telling Alberta what to do! Don't you want more independence for Alberta or would you rather the President of the USA tell you what to do?

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                #22
                Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
                "The United States federal government is suing California and other state entities, accusing them of trying to conduct their own foreign policy with Quebec by entering into a climate agreement.

                “The state of California has veered outside of its proper constitutional lane to enter into an international emissions agreement. The power to enter into such agreements is reserved to the federal government, which must be able to speak with one voice in the area of U.S. foreign policy,” said Assistant Attorney General Jeffrey Bossert Clark in a statement."

                Do you think this constitutional disagreement will be settled before either Trump resigns, is impeached or loses in 2020?

                Isn't this a case of the President trying to tell the State of California what to do? I thought you guys were opposed to Trudeau telling Alberta what to do! Don't you want more independence for Alberta or would you rather the President of the USA tell you what to do?
                I’d rather not see anyone be able to pollute more just from buying some bogus paper credits . It would help save the environment if they just reduced pollution. Plus Quebec gets way way too much free money already for doing nothing
                Last edited by furrowtickler; Oct 28, 2019, 08:15.

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                  #23
                  The US constitution is clear that the President onlu has authority for outside trade deals. Its not a federal state thing. The states have their power conferred to them by their congressional representatives. Thats a repubulic. Thats why states like ND have clout.

                  Canada is a confederation, loosely tied together provinces with a power distributed to make decisions for their own good not dictated by a far away detached govt.

                  US founder were top notch smart people. Our founders might have been too, but they couldn't foresee people electing a virtual retard.

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                    #24
                    If your position is that carbon credits have no value and can't be traded then its hard to argue that farmers should get any credit or value for best management practices that reduce carbon emissions like reduced tillage systems.

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                      #25
                      Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
                      If your position is that carbon credits have no value and can't be traded then its hard to argue that farmers should get any credit or value for best management practices that reduce carbon emissions like reduced tillage systems.
                      But that isn't the case....Trudeau has said carbon taxes will reach 50 dollars a tonne soon enough and now with a new mandate there will no one stopping him from raising it to 100...

                      The problem is what is the sequestering worth....no one wants to answer...in $ or in tonnes per acre...

                      All I know is the government is using our efforts for nothing....while the Nature conservancy is handed 100 million....

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                        #26
                        Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
                        If your position is that carbon credits have no value and can't be traded then its hard to argue that farmers should get any credit or value for best management practices that reduce carbon emissions like reduced tillage systems.
                        We actually are doing something, not just issuing pieces of paper to someone else .

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                          #27
                          Originally posted by furrowtickler View Post
                          We actually are doing something, not just issuing pieces of paper to someone else .
                          Every part of climate change is a scam, from the science, to the solutions to the hypocrits in between. Every single piece of it is utter garbage.

                          Canada should want AB to separate because they would meet their paris targets overnight. Ab and SK can then join the US and get credit for our land and forest and carbon capture and the US would be too.
                          Last edited by jazz; Oct 28, 2019, 12:05.

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                            #28
                            Originally posted by jazz View Post
                            Every part of climate change is a scam, from the science, to the solutions to the hypocrits in between. Every single piece of it is utter garbage.

                            Canada should want AB to separate because they would meet their paris targets overnight. Ab and SK can then join the US and get credit for our land and forest and carbon capture and the US would be too.
                            Agree on garbage non science, and your solution is BRILLIANT, we are Canada's problem!

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                              #29
                              Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
                              If your position is that carbon credits have no value and can't be traded then its hard to argue that farmers should get any credit or value for best management practices that reduce carbon emissions like reduced tillage systems.
                              Well Chucky, we don’t get any credit, in case you didn’t notice.

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                                #30
                                Originally posted by jazz View Post
                                Ab should immediately negotate something like that with Trump. Get some carbon credits back in return for something in the patch, whatever, then go challenge the whole thing in court saying quebec has cap and trade, so do we now. Take off the tax or face a consitutional challenge. There are so many things we could be doing to fight skippy.

                                Kenny should make a visit right to the white house and don't even tell skippy. That will make eastern heads melt.
                                He should also take the premiers from Sask. & Manitoba, instead of trying to do this stuff all by himself.

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