Oct 28 Harvest report

[fjlip]

"That's not how science works. The ones making the claim must provide irrefutable evidence. The bigger the claim the more robust the evidence must be. And since both the science, the data and the on ground observations do not match prediction, it should be tossed, or remain a fringe theory."

You are so right, it's all THEORY COMPUTER MODELS of what MIGHT happen. Nothing can be proven. Their past claims NEVER happened. Why believe anything they say. Show us the EMERGENCY, where? And what can be immediately done to STOP the EMERGENCY? What are you "over a barrel"?

[Guest]

I love our baseboard heaters since moving to MB. Turn the thermostat up and you can be as warm as you want with our cheap power. Much prefer it over the noisy gas furnace cutting in at all hours of the night - the permanent dehydration in winter and the dust everywhere.

you sure would need a big back up gen set to run them though?
that is becoming a very big concern for me with the warmer seasons getting shorter and more chance of wet snow on power lines
kinda nice to have gas that you can run your furnace with a little honda generator

[AlbertaFarmer5]

We broke our record low by a mere 10 degrees C this morning. Barely started harvest on crops that never got ripe, snow on the ground, and no hope in the forecast. Not trying to confuse weather with climate here, but I have to ask:

When the global warming trolls on Agriville choose a time such as this for lecturing real farmers about global warming, are they:
a) Just completely insensitive, malicious jerks who love to kick someone when they are down?
b) So fully disconnected from Agriculture, and conditions on the ground in western Canada that they haven't a clue the devastation and distress this weather is causing, and don't comprehend the poor timing of their attacks.
c) Just another day at the office, just doing their job, with no ill intent, just indifference since their paycheque relies upon it.

There is a time and place for everything, this is neither.

[Guest]

i think i have asked you before af5 , but what is your general area?

[AlbertaFarmer5]

i think i have asked you before af5 , but what is your general area?

According to Chuck I am in the backwoods of Northern Alberta. But last I checked, I am west of Red Deer a little too far. We are well within the Chinook belt, so still have a decent chance of getting back to harvest.

[Guest]

According to Chuck I am in the backwoods of Northern Alberta. But last I checked, I am west of Red Deer a little too far. We are well within the Chinook belt, so still have a decent chance of getting back to harvest.

good luck to you , hope you get another chance
well, he is in NW SK , which its kinda backwoods like us lol

[GDR]

Are you that dense that you can equate your personal anecdotal evidence as equivalent to the conclusions drawn by thousands of climate scientist's published and peer reviewed science?

If so you are an idiot.

Understand your point, but by the same token which of those scientists have personally experienced the weather over a period of time at saskfarmers farm, I'm guessing none so how can they tell him what the weather was? They cant, especially with removing the historical data from the mix.

I bet if a First Nations Elder made a comment about how there weather had changed and impacts on their lives it would be taken as gospel.

My personal observations are in past years we had many more extremes than we do now. I remember lots of blizzards with 10ft snow drifts and cold, and also lots of summers where we had a couple days of +40 weather, and also some amazing electrical storms but always had lots of perfect days in between year round.

What I see now is that we have less extremes, just shitty weather all the time.

[AlbertaFarmer5]

My personal observations are in past years we had many more extremes than we do now. I remember lots of blizzards with 10ft snow drifts and cold, and also lots of summers where we had a couple days of +40 weather, and also some amazing electrical storms but always had lots of perfect days in between year round.

What I see now is that we have less extremes

And your observations would be backed up by the scientific evidence. Extreme weather is getting less extreme and less frequent, along with associated deaths.

[GDR]

According to Chuck I am in the backwoods of Northern Alberta. But last I checked, I am west of Red Deer a little too far. We are well within the Chinook belt, so still have a decent chance of getting back to harvest.

AB5 we have had some warmish weather the last few winters and some weaker chinooks but we havent really gotten the plus 15 super windy days that last for a week like we used to. Here's hoping, I need it too.

[jazz]

So according the chuck I should trust sloth and slug scentists too becauase you know they are all scientists. You know those ones that sit and beg for tax payer funding for their dream research project then link it up to a climate scam to get it approved. Like your govt paid heart surgeon doing cancer research.

[furrowtickler]

So the views of a political scientist, who started his career as a producer for Rush Limbaugh, and who has no training is climate science, and is primarily funded by the fossil fuel industry and conservative think tanks is your go to guy for science? Hahaha!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marc_Morano https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marc_Morano

Prove what he said is wrong .....

[fjlip]

Prove what he said is wrong .....

Bet you got him "over a barrel", NOTHING can be proven, all is a GUESS, a FORECAST, a computer projection, worth SFA! WTH no forecasted DOOM and GLOOM emergencies have EVER materialized, LIERS, CROOKS!

[AlbertaFarmer5]

We broke our record low by a mere 10 degrees C this morning. Barely started harvest on crops that never got ripe, snow on the ground, and no hope in the forecast. Not trying to confuse weather with climate here, but I have to ask:

When the global warming trolls on Agriville choose a time such as this for lecturing real farmers about global warming, are they:
a) Just completely insensitive, malicious jerks who love to kick someone when they are down?
b) So fully disconnected from Agriculture, and conditions on the ground in western Canada that they haven't a clue the devastation and distress this weather is causing, and don't comprehend the poor timing of their attacks.
c) Just another day at the office, just doing their job, with no ill intent, just indifference since their paycheque relies upon it.

There is a time and place for everything, this is neither.

12 likes and still no rebuttal from the alarmists, they just moved on and started another global warming related thread instead.

[samhill]

There are families on the prairies with history going back at least 120 years, likely some much longer, they can tell you there’s “nothing new under the sun”

[dmlfarmer]

12 likes and still no rebuttal from the alarmists, they just moved on and started another global warming related thread instead.

Given the kicking I received for daring to question a post claiming current weather is totally related to low sun activity, I am sure why you expect me to answer your question, expecially when you preface your question with 3 more personal attacks on anyone who dares suggest climate change is real.

First, I am a real farmer and I am not done harvest. I am not kicking anyone because they are not finished nor am I interrogating anyone about how much they have done or how they are harvesting.

I am honestly looking for reasons why I have struggled to finish harvest for 3 years in a row now. I believe anyone who is not done should be asking themselves why is this happening. And that means looking at all possibilities, including a changing climate and if it is changing, how do I adapt. This is a question that needs to be asked now, not next spring, or next fall if it happens again. Change and adaptation takes time money and planning.

So when I asked furrowtickler why is it hot in other places if low solar output is the reason it is cold here he described the change in jet stream. Yet, as I pointed out, climate change scientests have described the exact same change in the jet stream as a result of climate change for years. So why is it not possible our current cold prairie weather is as much as a result of climate change as it is solar variability? Don't believe me, check out this scientific paper that was published just last week written by 5 actual scientists, not columnists or authors, or propagandists. https://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/1748-9326/ab422b https://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/1748-9326/ab422b

I personally believe there are natural cycles to climate and I also believe man is having an impact on climate. You are entitled to your beliefs what ever they are. But if your hypothesis is weather is all the result of natural forces, or of God's will, there is as much burden on you to prove your hypothesis as there is on people who believe weather is the result of climate change. And sorry, but the opinions of a political scientist turned climate expert, funded by political action groups does not qualify as proof.

You talk of insensitivity, of kicking people, of being malicious jerks. I dare every participant on this forum to go through every post on this thread and compare the number of times I verbally abused someone to the number of times I was called names, insulted, and attacked verbally. AF5, start with your own "a,b,c, post" and ask your self if each of the three answers you propose were not actually a personal attack. Lets see who really are the jerks doing the kicking on this site.