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    #11
    Even if the Feds brought back the original Agstab program the provincial governments would have to okay it. I’m not so sure if our provincial government is ready to step up to the plate for farmers.

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      #12
      Originally posted by Sodbuster View Post
      Even if the Feds brought back the original Agstab program the provincial governments would have to okay it. I’m not so sure if our provincial government is ready to step up to the plate for farmers.
      I’m thinking the provincial govt are still tryn to figure out how to tax us more

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        #13
        I’m still a little pissed at the Sask party for taxing insurance, as far as I know we are the only province that has this tax.

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          #14
          And yet they stand there in tv saying how rich the province is and look look the population of the province is growing and taxing us farmers more than the useless ndp ever did????

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            #15
            I got out of ag stability a year ago.With the new formula and also with my livestock and grain my income averages out themselves some what.Made it not worth the hassle of all the paper trail and audits etc.

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              #16
              A cow-calf operation will only get paid out if the herd is decimated due to catastrophic wipe-out because as soon as the calves are born, there’s your crop. But I guess a disease or something could wipe out the herd, but so unlikely.

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                #17
                Wasn't it about a year ago they actually improved the payment trigger by removing the "lower of" eligible expenses and keeping just the old "watered down" percentage of the 5 year o-lymp-dick average....you know, the 70% of 70%. The expense trigger portion was dropped. None the less its still a joke.

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                  #18
                  I remember when covering "negative" margins was a big deal.

                  Where's Richard5 these days, I always enjoyed his "contributions".

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by westernvicki View Post
                    Are any farm organizations lobbying for the return to the original ag stability formula?
                    Like the Seed Tax and most things in Ag policy the NFU was on it years ago and made the correct analysis and recommendation. Here is the relevant excerpt from their 2012 paper on BRMs under Growing Forward 2.

                    "The federal government is considering changing the AgriStability trigger to a 30% drop below reference margins under GF2. If that is implemented, only those farms subject to extreme volatility would be eligible for support. The new trigger may well function as an administrative tool to carry out a political goal – that of the elimination of AgriStability as a BRM program. Perhaps the idea is to replace AgriStability with some form of price insurance, as was suggested by the Agriculture Committee.
                    • The National Farmers Union recommends maintaining the 15% margin loss trigger for AgriStability"

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by grassfarmer View Post
                      Like the Seed Tax and most things in Ag policy the NFU was on it years ago and made the correct analysis and recommendation. Here is the relevant excerpt from their 2012 paper on BRMs under Growing Forward 2.

                      "The federal government is considering changing the AgriStability trigger to a 30% drop below reference margins under GF2. If that is implemented, only those farms subject to extreme volatility would be eligible for support. The new trigger may well function as an administrative tool to carry out a political goal – that of the elimination of AgriStability as a BRM program. Perhaps the idea is to replace AgriStability with some form of price insurance, as was suggested by the Agriculture Committee.
                      • The National Farmers Union recommends maintaining the 15% margin loss trigger for AgriStability"
                      And what should happen now is that the ag committee members at the time should be named and have them explain what their vision was for ag...

                      I, for one, would really like to know who was on that committee and what their rationale was and see if they can understand their stupidity....because some of those assholes and their advisors are still around...

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