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    #11
    Shop around..
    RP says under 300, then the discounts begin..Ours is 289..30 cent discount..
    Viterra same 289 number..ZERO DISCOUNT!!! just want to know which bin to dump it into..
    Guess where we are hauling ours?
    So what causes lower Falling number?
    Mega Farm that puts more fert and goodies on than anyone on the planet..has a number of 240???

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      #12
      Originally posted by Partners View Post
      Shop around..
      RP says under 300, then the discounts begin..Ours is 289..30 cent discount..
      Viterra same 289 number..ZERO DISCOUNT!!! just want to know which bin to dump it into..
      Guess where we are hauling ours?
      So what causes lower Falling number?
      Mega Farm that puts more fert and goodies on than anyone on the planet..has a number of 240???
      Here is my logic on what caused the lower falling numbers this year....not a conspiracy theory. ...a hunch....

      Guys sprayed to speed up dry down and then got caught with the rain....grain was mature and mostly dry so the rain caused instant sprouting....lower falling numbers. ..

      My wheat wasn't sprayed and left to mature naturally but wasn't when the rain hit....so by not being cured it took the rain and snow without sprouting. ...lowest falling number is 330....

      Just a thought....and it's not to say don't spray....because normally it works well when under 30 percent...


      Anyone want to discuss that nonsense. ? It's not scientific.....

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        #13
        Originally posted by bucket View Post
        Here is my logic on what caused the lower falling numbers this year....not a conspiracy theory. ...a hunch....

        Guys sprayed to speed up dry down and then got caught with the rain....grain was mature and mostly dry so the rain caused instant sprouting....lower falling numbers. ..

        My wheat wasn't sprayed and left to mature naturally but wasn't when the rain hit....so by not being cured it took the rain and snow without sprouting. ...lowest falling number is 330....

        Just a thought....and it's not to say don't spray....because normally it works well when under 30 percent...


        Anyone want to discuss that nonsense. ? It's not scientific.....
        I believe that has a huge part in it yes .
        Also these “higher yielding” bearded wheats seem much more susceptible to sprouting than the non bearded . A lot of AC Brandon is grown which has poor sprouting resistance is a factor as well .
        Last edited by furrowtickler; Nov 2, 2019, 09:21.

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          #14
          Originally posted by furrowtickler View Post
          I believe that has a huge part in it yes .
          Alain these “higher yielding” bearded wheats seem much more susceptible to sprouting than the non bearded . A lot of AC Brandon is grown which has poor sprouting resistance is a factor as well .
          I suspect brandon will be moved to a different class....

          Another crazy idea is that bearded wheats pull the drops to the kernel and hold it there....just a thought...the beards certainly don't shed the moisture....

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            #15
            I wonder if anyone on the commissions or anyone else is studying things like seeding dates, variety, desiccation and timing of etc. I know some commissions have agronomists on staff paid by farmers.

            I do know one elevator employee who on their own and for self interest only, has been following varieties for quality factors, not scientifically or any thing but things like beard length, maturity length etc, effect on sprouting and mildew, frost damage etc.

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              #16
              Originally posted by bucket View Post
              Here is my logic on what caused the lower falling numbers this year....not a conspiracy theory. ...a hunch....

              Guys sprayed to speed up dry down and then got caught with the rain....grain was mature and mostly dry so the rain caused instant sprouting....lower falling numbers. ..

              My wheat wasn't sprayed and left to mature naturally but wasn't when the rain hit....so by not being cured it took the rain and snow without sprouting. ...lowest falling number is 330....

              Just a thought....and it's not to say don't spray....because normally it works well when under 30 percent...


              Anyone want to discuss that nonsense. ? It's not scientific.....
              I heard the same comments yesterday at a COOP seed booking day lunch. Could be, if seed was dry once, more mature, even heavy fog/dew at ideal temps sprouted the hell out of our standing barley one year. Could just be timing, stupid luck/bad luck?

              "A lot of AC Brandon is grown which has poor sprouting resistance is a factor as well ."

              Same comments here, varieties that are less than VG sprouting resistance are a risk.

              "Another crazy idea is that bearded wheats pull the drops to the kernel and hold it there....just a thought...the beards certainly don't shed the moisture..."

              We had Landmark standing in the snow, CGC says no problem, 4 different samples all over 360 FN.
              Last edited by fjlip; Nov 2, 2019, 09:21.

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                #17
                Originally posted by bucket View Post
                I suspect brandon will be moved to a different class....

                Another crazy idea is that bearded wheats pull the drops to the kernel and hold it there....just a thought...the beards certainly don't shed the moisture....
                Brandon is near the bottom it sounds like.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by bucket View Post
                  Here is my logic on what caused the lower falling numbers this year....not a conspiracy theory. ...a hunch....

                  Guys sprayed to speed up dry down and then got caught with the rain....grain was mature and mostly dry so the rain caused instant sprouting....lower falling numbers. ..

                  My wheat wasn't sprayed and left to mature naturally but wasn't when the rain hit....so by not being cured it took the rain and snow without sprouting. ...lowest falling number is 330....

                  Just a thought....and it's not to say don't spray....because normally it works well when under 30 percent...


                  Anyone want to discuss that nonsense. ? It's not scientific.....
                  Thats interesting bucket
                  We left 30 ac for seed in the middle of a quarter for seed that was dessicated
                  Im gonna get it tested on monday ?

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                    #19
                    I just wonder if all the varietal testing is done by those wanting a seed tax for newer better variety for conditions like these...along with better recommendations as to timing ....oh and maybe a better weather forecasting system for day to day , week to week.....they have the population convinced on the 12 to 25 year out forecast...FFS.....

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by caseih View Post
                      Thats interesting bucket
                      We left 30 ac for seed in the middle of a quarter for seed that was dessicated
                      Im gonna get it tested on monday ?
                      Hope you have dessicated tested too and share the comparison results. I think we need more testing like this done.

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