Keystone pipeline leak

[walterm]

I always think of the Beverly Hill Billies theme song. Up from the ground came bubbling crude. Or the gas that comes up with some water wells and flowing wells so you can light the water taps.

[furrowtickler]

I wonder if will cost more to clean up this leak or was it more expensive to clean up after those protesters...... remember??? Protectors of mother earth ? Yup they sure care about pollution...


Just posting as reference is all ...

[furrowtickler]

What about the billions of liters of hydrocarbon based pesticides deliberately spread across the world on an annual basis

Don’t worry , farmers are converting to tillage and reducing spraying ......


Fall tillage can be very effective 👍

[AlbertaFarmer5]

What about the billions of liters of hydrocarbon based pesticides deliberately spread across the world on an annual basis

Austranada, what was the point of changing your username if you are just going to post the same things as before?

[TSIPP]

Pretty sure 3 million pounds of oil is easy to clean up compared to 48 million pounds of garbage left on the Indians sacred ground.

[grassfarmer]

I wonder if will cost more to clean up this leak or was it more expensive to clean up after those protesters...... remember??? Protectors of mother earth ? Yup they sure care about pollution...


Just posting as reference is all ...

It was an interesting reference on two fronts. First it debunks the theory that the mainstream media use bigger numbers to inflame outrage and discredit only "right wing" causes. See they used pounds here when they could have used tons and made the problem seem so much smaller.

Interesting too that you used the original story rather than the updated one from a month later when they corrected the math error that had led them to overestimate the amount of garbage substantially. Instead of 48 million pounds they corrected it to 21 million pounds.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/mar/19/garbage-haul-at-dakota-access-camps-revised-downwa/ http://https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/mar/19/garbage-haul-at-dakota-access-camps-revised-downwa/

[furrowtickler]

It was an interesting reference on two fronts. First it debunks the theory that the mainstream media use bigger numbers to inflame outrage and discredit only "right wing" causes. See they used pounds here when they could have used tons and made the problem seem so much smaller.

Interesting too that you used the original story rather than the updated one from a month later when they corrected the math error that had led them to overestimate the amount of garbage substantially. Instead of 48 million pounds they corrected it to 21 million pounds.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/mar/19/garbage-haul-at-dakota-access-camps-revised-downwa/ http://https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/mar/19/garbage-haul-at-dakota-access-camps-revised-downwa/

Oh well that makes it better lol .. point is the very people that squawk the loudest like protesters are being lead around like sheep and don’t really care .... as long as they get paid to protest and someone else pays to clean up their mess .

[TSIPP]

WTF I didn’t like the last grass post, I really didn’t!

[fjlip]

Crude is actually natural to the enviroment, it oozes everywhere and not nice stuff it does break down naturally.

RIGHT, and left wing nut protestors, jobless, welfare ASS HOLES are Not natural, just naturally pieces of SHIT!

21 million pounds = 9528 TONNES, 9.528 MEGA TONNES like your C02 emergency figures, happy now??

[seldomseen]

I know nothing of oil spills but what I do know is my Dad dumped used engine oil in the same spot behind our shop for about 40 years. That spot was covered with brush and brome grass and the vegetation was greener and lusher in that spot than most of the surrounding area. After I stopped doing that for the last 25 or so years you can’t tell that spot from any other spot. As far as chems go I rinse my sprayer in a spot behind the yard that is kind of low and mossy and a bit of a swamp and growing brome grass that I keep mowed. That spot looks as healthy and lush as any area in the yard.

[chuckChuck]

The usual suspects downplay pipeline spills.

It is a significant risk especially if the pipeline crosses a river or aquifer used for farms, towns and cities. We saw what happened with Husky and the Saskatchewan river. Keystone is being held up in Nebraska over this issue.

There are thousands of suspended, abandoned and orphaned oil facilities in western canada that are likely sites of significant contamination from oil and saltwater.

Who is going to pay for the cleanup? The cost according to provincial auditors is in the billions of dollars.

Downplay the risk all you want but the fact is the oil companies in many cases are transferring the costs onto taxpayers if they can get away with it. Its another subsidy to the oil industry who often take their money and run.

[AlbertaFarmer5]

... the oil industry who often take their money and run.

And right now, they are taking their money, and their jobs, and their taxes, and royalties, and running to a jurisdiction that isn't openly and blatantly anti-industry. The oil and gas is still being produced and consumed, CO2 still released, environmental impacts still occur, but all the benefits are now being realized by other countries, namely the US. Meanwhile, have you considered who is going to have to fill the revenue hole left behind by the exiting energy companies to fulfil the socialist spending obligations? Do you think energy companies are more likely to pay for clean up if they are still functioning here and profitable, or if they have been forced out of the country?

What industries are left behind, who don't have the option of pulling up stakes and moving south? If you guessed farmers, you would be right.