Wexit

[WiltonRanch]

I don’t know if conditions are such yet that separation would have enough support to be a go. Other words it’s got to get worse before the sheeple will switch sides. The majority of people doesn’t mean shit all. The American Revolution was only supported by 30% of the people. There is an active portion of the population and ones that just go along with whatever. I’ve come to realize that in society in general. Any change that happens will hopefully come from an active, better educated, and well heeled group. I am more for an independent west not a separate one at this time. Precedent was set with Quebec and if our western leaders had the will and gonads to they would set forth to attain the same treatment Quebec gets. As it stands our western leaders ruminate and bitch about alienation but don’t do anything. Actions speak louder than words. We don’t need to separate our leaders need to grow a set.

[bucket]

But you always have to have the hammer with the threat of separation....these guys (Moe and Kenney ) are poor negotiators....starting with the fact they think Scheer would have made the difference to western Canada....and they started after the election which made them look bitter....


FFS

[jazz]

lots of other things to try first that should shake it up

https://business.financialpost.com/opinion/columnists/braid-alberta-pension-a-serious-idea-that-would-flip-out-the-feds/wcm/fcfc3300-452a-4458-a9c6-5845cf2699b9 Leaving the Canada Pension Plan could be Alberta’s next shot across Ottawa’s bow

[jazz]

But you always have to have the hammer with the threat of separation....these guys (Moe and Kenney ) are poor negotiators....starting with the fact they think Scheer would have made the difference to western Canada....and they started after the election which made them look bitter....


FFS

The leadership of CPC was doomed from the start, not that Scheers a bad guy but he got played by certain interest groups that turned on him anyway. Quebec dairy cartel influencing the leadership and then CPC gets no extra seats in Quebec. Hopefully we wont be fooled like that again.

[malleefarmer]

Though I’m not Canadian find it all interesting both sides of argument.

Got me thinking if eastern Canadian provinces wanted to seperate probably be done in a flash 3 yrs done and dusted.

[foragefarmer]

Mallee

"Though I’m not Canadian"

That's where you should have ended your post, because you obviously don't have a clue as to what your talking about regarding Eastern Canada separating.

A recent poll conducted by Ipsos indicated only 9% of Atlantic Canada, and 8% of Ontarians, are wanting to separate from Canada. Even Quebec who has their own separatist federal party is at $26%. Manitoba which is the middle of Canada is only at 11%.


Western Australia is where you should focus your expertise on separation!

[Guest]

**** no, i guess quebeckers don't wanna seperate , their not that stupid, they just use it as a bullying tactic
and the far east would need passports to fly to work , so no they don't want to either

[agstar77]

You have waited too long . The leverage you might have had is leaving with the decline of oil economy. Sask and alta are turning into have not provinces.

[chuckChuck]

Both Saskatchewan and Manitoba have been recipients of equalization payments.

Scott Moe was raised on the benefits of equalization received from the Federal government.

Manitoba currently receives more per capita than Quebec.

Health and Social transfers to all provinces including Alberta and Saskatchewan, are bigger programs and a much larger share of federal program spending than equalization.

Kenney and Harper were architects of the most recent equalization formulae.

The Federal taxes Albertans pay are exactly the same as what is paid in Ontario at the same income levels.

But don't let any of these facts get in your way when it comes to discussing how the two richest province by per capita GDP in Canada south of 60 Degrees are still Saskatchewan and Alberta.

The question is how can the two richest provinces be in such difficulty? Where is all that GDP going? And what happened to all the resource revenue that was generated during the boom?

[jazz]

The question is how can the two richest provinces be in such difficulty? Where is all that GDP going? And what happened to all the resource revenue that was generated during the boom?

Siphoned off to Quebec who has exempted its hydro revenues to keep per capita income low.

https://www.fraserinstitute.org/studies/albertans-make-disproportionate-contributions-to-national-programs AB over contributes to CPP as well.

tens of billions in one way support to the rest of Canada.

I am sure Ab doesn't mind of some equalization lands in Sask because they have sucked in so many people from here when the NDP was destroying the province.