http://albertaclimaterecords.com/

[sk_wheatking]

Not much to talk about if you don't believe scientists or believe in science. You might as well go back to the dark ages.

Most of farmers are smart enough not to listen to the equivalent of coffee row "experts" spout conspiracy theories without any evidence or facts to back them up.

I've asked this before with no answer. Why dont you and your bunch of climate warriors take the lead! Get out front and live your propaganda. Home school your kids. Cut all ties to anything that emits c02. Live like the amish. They do it, why dont you? You know why, because you dont believe it either and you wouldn't last an afternoon without our evil carbon based life. Your game is just fighting for a radical idealism that you know nothing about but are just force fed by your left wing extremist leaders. The global warming scam is just that, a scam and another way to transfer wealth.

How's al gore doing in the c02 footprint?

Ok, now start scanning the internet for a bunch of cut and paste stuff,lol, that you have no clue about, from "scientists" that you have never heard of. Oh and dont forget the name calling and threats! That's what the global warming group does when their in a pinch for a comeback.

[fjlip]

Jazz

You have to ignore facts in this conversation....

Can't predict anything 6 months out accurately but believe nonsense 25 or 50 years out....

They have kids believing they shouldn't have kids when they get older.....FFS....

I hope they keep that teenager's interview until she is 30....the one on the National last night....then I had to switch channels....

Thanks guys for beating the shit out of Cultist!

10 years till earth is destroyed, Canada 1.6% of world can save it with TAXES that they repay back to average joe? All the calculations are made up computer guesses, projections, nothing so far has happened in 40 years of DOOM saying, all projections are within margins of error even if 100% accurate! But oh yes we must totally accept their infallible accurate to a 100th of a degree WORLD average temperature!

[dmlfarmer]

[QUOTE=sk_wheatking;430356]... Snow and cold comes earlier every year. Yes it seems like since 2009 it's been getting worse every year.... QUOTE]

sk_wheatking: Nice rant about global warmers need to live what they preach. But SK if you truly feel the climate is actually cooling, and the growing season is getting shorter what are you doing mitigate potential losses on your farm?

Should not those who believe the climate is cooling also have to grow shorter season crops, and crops that require less heat units before crying for government and insurance support when crops are left out in the field?

Instead of selecting varieties by yield, should you not be selecting by days to maturity?

Are you still applying fungicide which lengthens the growing period? Perhaps those claiming global cooling is occurring should not be allowed to use a fungicide?

Have you switched to growing shorter season Polish Canola instead of Argentine varieties?

Why would anyone who believes in the solar minimum or global cooling is happening be trying to grown soybeans or corn on the prairies anymore? Should they not be going back to the shorter season crops their parents and grandparents grew?

[fjlip]

Post data 1850 to 1950.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_extreme_temperatures_in_Canada

High and low records are almost all before the modern oil economy even started when there was 5 billion fewer people and hardly anybody owned a car or flew in a plane.

Gee in 100 years extreme temps are the same? No trend at all! You lose big time CC et al. Thanks jazz

[jazz]

Not much to talk about if you don't believe scientists or believe in science. You might as well go back to the dark ages.

Ahh, theres the rub. I believe in evidence presented in proper context and ground verified, not falsified, hyped, modified, re base lined and contrary to theory. I don't believe in people with an agenda, scientists or not. And I don't follow science linked up with a cult.

I have never seen a scientist ever pitch a tax as a solution to a problem.

This whole field is tainted and stinks to high heaven.

[seldomseen]

[QUOTE=dmlfarmer;430391]

... Snow and cold comes earlier every year. Yes it seems like since 2009 it's been getting worse every year.... QUOTE]

sk_wheatking: Nice rant about global warmers need to live what they preach. But SK if you truly feel the climate is actually cooling, and the growing season is getting shorter what are you doing mitigate potential losses on your farm?

Should not those who believe the climate is cooling also have to grow shorter season crops, and crops that require less heat units before crying for government and insurance support when crops are left out in the field?

Instead of selecting varieties by yield, should you not be selecting by days to maturity?

Are you still applying fungicide which lengthens the growing period? Perhaps those claiming global cooling is occurring should not be allowed to use a fungicide?

Have you switched to growing shorter season Polish Canola instead of Argentine varieties?

Why would anyone who believes in the solar minimum or global cooling is happening be trying to grown soybeans or corn on the prairies anymore? Should they not be going back to the shorter season crops their parents and grandparents grew?

Yes that's what i do Mr. DML! Always look for the shortest days to maturity that i can find. Last few year only L 230 canola and always look at maturity of the wheat i grow, and Barley. This year i could have grown a newer pea variety but when i looked at season length i thought better stick with Meadow because shorter season. Even with the shortest season wheat it still nip and tuck to beat the frost. 20 years ago the media had me believing soybeans and corn were in my future!

[sk_wheatking]

[QUOTE=dmlfarmer;430391]

... Snow and cold comes earlier every year. Yes it seems like since 2009 it's been getting worse every year.... QUOTE]

sk_wheatking: Nice rant about global warmers need to live what they preach. But SK if you truly feel the climate is actually cooling, and the growing season is getting shorter what are you doing mitigate potential losses on your farm?

Should not those who believe the climate is cooling also have to grow shorter season crops, and crops that require less heat units before crying for government and insurance support when crops are left out in the field?

Instead of selecting varieties by yield, should you not be selecting by days to maturity?

Are you still applying fungicide which lengthens the growing period? Perhaps those claiming global cooling is occurring should not be allowed to use a fungicide?

Have you switched to growing shorter season Polish Canola instead of Argentine varieties?

Why would anyone who believes in the solar minimum or global cooling is happening be trying to grown soybeans or corn on the prairies anymore? Should they not be going back to the shorter season crops their parents and grandparents grew?

Lol right on cue, but, that's your opinion and I can appreciate that.

[dmlfarmer]

Post data 1850 to 1950.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_extreme_temperatures_in_Canada

High and low records are almost all before the modern oil economy even started when there was 5 billion fewer people and hardly anybody owned a car or flew in a plane.

LOL Jazz do you have any idea how stupid this post makes you look after you just posted the following criticism of Chuck this morning:

" 50 yrs is not a valid sample in the history of a 4 billion yr old planet. Its cherry picked garbage. You have no idea of time scale.

Run the data for every 50 yr time set for the past 100M yrs and get back to us" (second post in thread)

Extreme highs and lows are cherry picked data and you berated chuck of not providing 100M years of data yet support your own arguments with 150 years. You crack me up! LOL

[jazz]

Extreme highs and lows are cherry picked data and you berated chuck of not providing 100M years of data yet support your own arguments with 150 years. You crack me up! LOL

dml you should seek professional mental help.

Chucks narratives was torpedoed again. I am not trying to prove climate change or anything. I simply refuted his argument that the 1950-2019 data shows warming due to fossil fuel use when clearly there were warmer periods in the previous 100 yrs before invention of our industrial society and a lot less people on the planet.

So if we are warming rapidly in the near term period as he proposes, why do the record temps fall outside his data set?

The answer is obvious.

He is the one that has to prove his theory not me. But again it took all of 30 sec to send chuck back to his basement and CBC. He will be back tomorrow.

[sumdumguy]

“average” temperatures going back to 1851. How stupid do you think people are? Anyone with half a brain knows that in 1851 mercury thermometers probably couldn’t measure temp within 3 degrees never mind fractions of degrees. And if the “scientists” are using “modelling” it is BS.

[seldomseen]

Not much to talk about if you don't believe scientists or believe in science. You might as well go back to the dark ages.

Most of farmers are smart enough not to listen to the equivalent of coffee row "experts" spout conspiracy theories without any evidence or facts to back them up.

Chucky If you want to save the World you better go back to the dark ages. Practice what you preach.

[dmlfarmer]

dml you should seek professional mental help.

Chucks narratives was torpedoed again. I am not trying to prove climate change or anything. I simply refuted his argument that the 1950-2019 data shows warming due to fossil fuel use when clearly there were warmer periods in the previous 100 yrs before invention of our industrial society and a lot less people on the planet.

So if we are warming rapidly in the near term period as he proposes, why do the record temps fall outside his data set?

The answer is obvious.

He is the one that has to prove his theory not me. But again it took all of 30 sec to send chuck back to his basement and CBC. He will be back tomorrow.

Oh you are priceless! Jazz, I just have to ask: According to you the Canadian record highs and lows temperature data you posted prove that there were warmer periods in the previous 100 years. Correct? So was 1935 - 1936 a warmer period or a colder period seeing as the old time record low temperature in Ontario happened on Jan 23, 1935 yet there record high temps were recorded on August 18-19 in NB/NS/PEI. But then on Jan 8, 1936 the record low ever recorded in the NWT happened only to be followed by record high temp in Ontarion in july 11-13, 1936. So in your mind does climate change every 6 months, or is the record temperature reading not indicative of climate at all but rather weather in one particular place at a specific moment in time?

While you are at it, here is another record which was set just this year. In March, Inuvik set the Canadian record for the highest temperature above average , Inuvik, NWT, is 14.1°C (25.4°F) above the 1981-2010 normal through March 29th. https://www.theweathernetwork.com/ca/news/article/northern-canada-shattering-temperature-records-all-time-march-records-highest-anomaly https://www.theweathernetwork.com/ca/news/article/northern-canada-shattering-temperature-records-all-time-march-records-highest-anomaly So using your "proof" does the 2019 record above average temp in Inuvik in March mean 2019 was actually a warm period across Canada - including the prairies?

[FarmJunkie]

Not much too talk about if u can’t see the Sun controls our weather. Not us or what we do on this planet.

[dmlfarmer]

Not much too talk about if u can’t see the Sun controls our weather. Not us or what we do on this planet.

Of course the sun controls our weather, just as it is necessary for all life; but that does not mean man cannot impact climate.

The sun is ultimately responsible for all crop growth and yield right. But I bet you agree that man can influence those yields - by adding fertilizer for example.

Consider this: adding 50lbs of N in an acre of soil is equivalent to just 0.0025% of N to the weight of an acre of top soil. So does that small percentage of N impact yields? Our atmosphere contains roughly 0.04% C02 and it has increased by 25% over the last 100 years. If such a small percentage of N can impact crops why do you not think a small change in CO2 could not have an impact on climate. We know for sure a small increase in CO2 impacts plant growth?

[FarmJunkie]

Phuck that. Your trying to tell me we changed the weather in a hundred years and the earth is millions of years old. Get bent. This is why we are so screwed in our society. We give ourselves more credit than we deserve. No way in hell we can change the weather when a single volcano exploding can drop the temp by all the ash it spews and quickly. Burning fuel ain’t near the same of course unless some paid scientist tells us so.