http://albertaclimaterecords.com/

[mustardman]

I think jazz is Hiding in his basement watching Fox

Oh you are priceless! Jazz, I just have to ask: According to you the Canadian record highs and lows temperature data you posted prove that there were warmer periods in the previous 100 years. Correct? So was 1935 - 1936 a warmer period or a colder period seeing as the old time record low temperature in Ontario happened on Jan 23, 1935 yet there record high temps were recorded on August 18-19 in NB/NS/PEI. But then on Jan 8, 1936 the record low ever recorded in the NWT happened only to be followed by record high temp in Ontarion in july 11-13, 1936. So in your mind does climate change every 6 months, or is the record temperature reading not indicative of climate at all but rather weather in one particular place at a specific moment in time?

While you are at it, here is another record which was set just this year. In March, Inuvik set the Canadian record for the highest temperature above average , Inuvik, NWT, is 14.1°C (25.4°F) above the 1981-2010 normal through March 29th. https://www.theweathernetwork.com/ca/news/article/northern-canada-shattering-temperature-records-all-time-march-records-highest-anomaly https://www.theweathernetwork.com/ca/news/article/northern-canada-shattering-temperature-records-all-time-march-records-highest-anomaly So using your "proof" does the 2019 record above average temp in Inuvik in March mean 2019 was actually a warm period across Canada - including the prairies?

[jazz]

I think jazz is Hiding in his basement watching Fox

Whos hiding, destroying climate radicals daily is thirsty work.

Now back to work. Climate theory calls for higher highs as we approach the human induced warming tipping point. Logic would conclude that we would start to see higher record highs as well. That's clearly not happening when the vast majority of high temp record predate the fossil fuel era.

[dmlfarmer]

Whos hiding, destroying climate radicals daily is thirsty work.

Now back to work. Climate theory calls for higher highs as we approach the human induced warming tipping point. Logic would conclude that we would start to see higher record highs as well. That's clearly not happening when the vast majority of high temp record predate the fossil fuel era.

Sorry to hear you have a drinking problem, but now I understand where your "logic" is coming from. For example, higher record temperatures are not required for a higher global average temperature if more warming happens in winter than in summer in Canada for example.

But I still would like to hear your answer to my previous questions. We really need more laughter after this fall.

[dmlfarmer]

Phuck that. Your trying to tell me we changed the weather in a hundred years and the earth is millions of years old. Get bent. This is why we are so screwed in our society. We give ourselves more credit than we deserve. No way in hell we can change the weather when a single volcano exploding can drop the temp by all the ash it spews and quickly. Burning fuel ain’t near the same of course unless some paid scientist tells us so.

just because a volcano can impact climate (which I agree with too) does not mean man cannot. It is comparing apples to oranges. And you do realize that there are an average 20 volcanos erupting on any day,even through the relatively stable temperatures of the 1900s.

And what does the age of the earth have to do with whether man is contributing to climate change, especially went man has only been around for a small portion of the time the earth has been and has only relied on fossil fuels for a couple of hundred years?

[seldomseen]

Sorry to hear you have a drinking problem, but now I understand where your "logic" is coming from. For example, higher record temperatures are not required for a higher global average temperature if more warming happens in winter than in summer in Canada for example.

But I still would like to hear your answer to my previous questions. We really need more laughter after this fall.

Warmer winters????? I starting to think you have the drinking problem.

[dmlfarmer]

Warmer winters????? I starting to think you have the drinking problem.

It was an example of a possibility where you would never need a record high temperature to have a higher yearly temperature. I am not claiming this is happening however I did check out the website chuck found and did note that warmer Alberta winters has been documented in the interactive website. Did you check out the site? Here is the hotlink. http://albertaclimaterecords.com/ http://albertaclimaterecords.com/ (It is a detailed site so will not work in all browsers, I had to change browers to open the interactive map.) I think it would be of real interest to anyone living in Alberta to see how climate has changed for their location since 1950. I wish such a site was available for the other provinces.

[AlbertaFarmer5]

Of course the sun controls our weather, just as it is necessary for all life; but that does not mean man cannot impact climate.

The sun is ultimately responsible for all crop growth and yield right. But I bet you agree that man can influence those yields - by adding fertilizer for example.

Consider this: adding 50lbs of N in an acre of soil is equivalent to just 0.0025% of N to the weight of an acre of top soil. So does that small percentage of N impact yields? Our atmosphere contains roughly 0.04% C02 and it has increased by 25% over the last 100 years. If such a small percentage of N can impact crops why do you not think a small change in CO2 could not have an impact on climate. We know for sure a small increase in CO2 impacts plant growth?

Now that is a very effective argument DML. Well played, I haven't seen anyone present CO2 concentrations with that analogy before. Difficult for a farmer to refute that.

And yes, the increases in CO2 resulted in increases in plant growth, which resulted in increased respiration, which is well documented to affect weather.

[seldomseen]

It was an example of a possibility where you would never need a record high temperature to have a higher yearly temperature. I am not claiming this is happening however I did check out the website chuck found and did note that warmer winters has been documented in the interactive website. Did you check out the site?

Yes i did check out the site. I just know the last couple of winters have been ugly cold on top of that so have the summers!

[farming101]

Warmer winters-good, colder winters-bad.

[6V53]

Jazz, no doubt you are a hold over from the Mesozoic era so, any data from 1950 -2010 is meaningless to you.

Well you wouldn't want to add in the 1930s,that might throw off the conclusion your looking for.

[GDR]

It was an example of a possibility where you would never need a record high temperature to have a higher yearly temperature. I am not claiming this is happening however I did check out the website chuck found and did note that warmer Alberta winters has been documented in the interactive website. Did you check out the site? Here is the hotlink. http://albertaclimaterecords.com/ http://albertaclimaterecords.com/ (It is a detailed site so will not work in all browsers, I had to change browers to open the interactive map.) I think it would be of real interest to anyone living in Alberta to see how climate has changed for their location since 1950. I wish such a site was available for the other provinces.

Good note on the browser, I tried 2 different ones on my phone and wont work, will try on the computer, sounds interesting.

[jazz]

Sorry to hear you have a drinking problem, but now I understand where your "logic" is coming from. For example, higher record temperatures are not required for a higher global average temperature if more warming happens in winter than in summer in Canada for example.

Haha so let me get this straight. We are rapidly warming post 1950 and everywhere is warming twice as fast as everywhere else now according to MSM and we are not going to set any new temp records? They are all going to stay in the pre 1930 era before cars and 5 billion more people? Only winter warming, summer is going to be ok. Wow that's amazing. I am so glad we have those accurate models to point this whopper out.

Please keep going with the climate research. Us deniers don't have to do anything, you are doing all the work for us.

[chuckChuck]

Gerald Pilger's article in the November 2019 Country Guide "Adapt to the New Abnormal" quotes Dr. Stefan Kienzle from The university of Lethbridge who put together Alberta Climate Records from 1950-2010.

"Climate change is not just a gradual warming. Climate change is increased climate variability. There will be an increase in heat waves. And there will be an increase in cold spells"

"the growing season is now three to five weeks longer than it was in 1950"

"there is a consistent trend of higher average temperatures throughout Alberta"

" in spite of the warming over that same time period, there has also been an increase in cold spells
(defined as five consecutive days where temperatures are 5 C colder than average)".

"There will be increased chances of more up and down temperatures and precipitation, especially in the fall when there is hot tropical air to the south and when deep troughs of cold air form in the arctic"



Does this possibly explain why the last 2 harvest seasons were persistently wetter and colder on much of the prairies?

The Colorado low that dumped up to 65 cm of snow in Manitoba on Thanksgiving is a text book example of warm tropical air hitting cold arctic air over the prairies.

Farmers need to know what the climate trends are in order to make cropping and management decisions.

If you are going to ignore climate science (or worse claim it is a hoax) and what is happening around you then you are putting yourself at a great disadvantage.

Most farmers are not going to dismiss or deny credible scientific evidence. Their work and farms are dependent upon science and knowledge.

If the horrible harvest weather that we have received in the last several seasons is the new "normal" because of climate change, then the the bill that goes with it is in the hundreds of millions if not billions of dollars.

Would any serious business manager in any industry dismiss or ignore this scale of risk to their business? I don't think so.

[furrowtickler]

Gerald Pilger's article in the November 2019 Country Guide "Adapt to the New Abnormal" quotes Dr. Stefan Kienzle from The university of Lethbridge who put together Alberta Climate Records from 1950-2010.

"Climate change is not just a gradual warming. Climate change is increased climate variability. There will be an increase in heat waves. And there will be an increase in cold spells"

"the growing season is now three to five weeks longer than it was in 1950"

"there is a consistent trend of higher average temperatures throughout Alberta"

" in spite of the warming over that same time period, there has also been an increase in cold spells
(defined as five consecutive days where temperatures are 5 C colder than average)".

"There will be increased chances of more up and down temperatures and precipitation, especially in the fall when there is hot tropical air to the south and when deep troughs of cold air form in the arctic"



Does this possibly explain why the last 2 harvest seasons were persistently wetter and colder on much of the prairies?

The Colorado low that dumped up to 65 cm of snow in Manitoba on Thanksgiving is a text book example of warm tropical air hitting cold arctic air over the prairies.

Farmers need to know what the climate trends are in order to make cropping and management decisions.

If you are going to ignore climate science (or worse claim it is a hoax) and what is happening around you then you are putting yourself at a great disadvantage.

Most farmers are not going to dismiss or deny credible scientific evidence. Their work and farms are dependent upon science and knowledge.

If the horrible harvest weather that we have received in the last several seasons is the new "normal" because of climate change, then the the bill that goes with it is in the hundreds of millions if not billions of dollars.

Would any serious business manager in any industry dismiss or ignore this scale of risk to their business? I don't think so.

Yup the solar minimum is changing the climate , and areas of the world like Asia have a massive pollution problem that needs to be addressed before they kill all the oceans . Remember a huge percentage of the worlds population gets their food directly from oceans .
With precision Ag , min till , their 4 engines , nitrogen stabilizers, most of us are doing far more here in western Canada already than almost anywhere in the world to reduce pollution.
Take this preaching to Russia , Mexico , anywhere in Africa , Ukraine , Brazil , Argentina, China India and Malaysia...... get them on the same page .
Chuck are you using all their 4 engines and Nitrogen stabilization? DML ?

[jazz]

If the horrible harvest weather that we have received in the last several seasons is the new "normal" because of climate change, then the the bill that goes with it is in the hundreds of millions if not billions of dollars.

Would any serious business manager in any industry dismiss or ignore this scale of risk to their business? I don't think so.

BS the growing season has not changed. First frost dates are same as they have been for as long as people have been farming here and those shoulder months are just as cold as they always have been.

How long you been farming for? Go find an old timer in the coffee shop and have a little chat instead of surfing the net. You might get your eyes opened.

JHC my dad has fought off every imaginable weather condition we have seen. He can quote a handful of yrs in the 50s and 60s and 80s to match anything we have seen.

When I am planting 2 crops a season, I will bow down at chucks altar.