http://albertaclimaterecords.com/

[GDR]

It was an example of a possibility where you would never need a record high temperature to have a higher yearly temperature. I am not claiming this is happening however I did check out the website chuck found and did note that warmer Alberta winters has been documented in the interactive website. Did you check out the site? Here is the hotlink. http://albertaclimaterecords.com/ http://albertaclimaterecords.com/ (It is a detailed site so will not work in all browsers, I had to change browers to open the interactive map.) I think it would be of real interest to anyone living in Alberta to see how climate has changed for their location since 1950. I wish such a site was available for the other provinces.

Good note on the browser, I tried 2 different ones on my phone and wont work, will try on the computer, sounds interesting.

[jazz]

Sorry to hear you have a drinking problem, but now I understand where your "logic" is coming from. For example, higher record temperatures are not required for a higher global average temperature if more warming happens in winter than in summer in Canada for example.

Haha so let me get this straight. We are rapidly warming post 1950 and everywhere is warming twice as fast as everywhere else now according to MSM and we are not going to set any new temp records? They are all going to stay in the pre 1930 era before cars and 5 billion more people? Only winter warming, summer is going to be ok. Wow that's amazing. I am so glad we have those accurate models to point this whopper out.

Please keep going with the climate research. Us deniers don't have to do anything, you are doing all the work for us.

[chuckChuck]

Gerald Pilger's article in the November 2019 Country Guide "Adapt to the New Abnormal" quotes Dr. Stefan Kienzle from The university of Lethbridge who put together Alberta Climate Records from 1950-2010.

"Climate change is not just a gradual warming. Climate change is increased climate variability. There will be an increase in heat waves. And there will be an increase in cold spells"

"the growing season is now three to five weeks longer than it was in 1950"

"there is a consistent trend of higher average temperatures throughout Alberta"

" in spite of the warming over that same time period, there has also been an increase in cold spells
(defined as five consecutive days where temperatures are 5 C colder than average)".

"There will be increased chances of more up and down temperatures and precipitation, especially in the fall when there is hot tropical air to the south and when deep troughs of cold air form in the arctic"



Does this possibly explain why the last 2 harvest seasons were persistently wetter and colder on much of the prairies?

The Colorado low that dumped up to 65 cm of snow in Manitoba on Thanksgiving is a text book example of warm tropical air hitting cold arctic air over the prairies.

Farmers need to know what the climate trends are in order to make cropping and management decisions.

If you are going to ignore climate science (or worse claim it is a hoax) and what is happening around you then you are putting yourself at a great disadvantage.

Most farmers are not going to dismiss or deny credible scientific evidence. Their work and farms are dependent upon science and knowledge.

If the horrible harvest weather that we have received in the last several seasons is the new "normal" because of climate change, then the the bill that goes with it is in the hundreds of millions if not billions of dollars.

Would any serious business manager in any industry dismiss or ignore this scale of risk to their business? I don't think so.

[furrowtickler]

Gerald Pilger's article in the November 2019 Country Guide "Adapt to the New Abnormal" quotes Dr. Stefan Kienzle from The university of Lethbridge who put together Alberta Climate Records from 1950-2010.

"Climate change is not just a gradual warming. Climate change is increased climate variability. There will be an increase in heat waves. And there will be an increase in cold spells"

"the growing season is now three to five weeks longer than it was in 1950"

"there is a consistent trend of higher average temperatures throughout Alberta"

" in spite of the warming over that same time period, there has also been an increase in cold spells
(defined as five consecutive days where temperatures are 5 C colder than average)".

"There will be increased chances of more up and down temperatures and precipitation, especially in the fall when there is hot tropical air to the south and when deep troughs of cold air form in the arctic"



Does this possibly explain why the last 2 harvest seasons were persistently wetter and colder on much of the prairies?

The Colorado low that dumped up to 65 cm of snow in Manitoba on Thanksgiving is a text book example of warm tropical air hitting cold arctic air over the prairies.

Farmers need to know what the climate trends are in order to make cropping and management decisions.

If you are going to ignore climate science (or worse claim it is a hoax) and what is happening around you then you are putting yourself at a great disadvantage.

Most farmers are not going to dismiss or deny credible scientific evidence. Their work and farms are dependent upon science and knowledge.

If the horrible harvest weather that we have received in the last several seasons is the new "normal" because of climate change, then the the bill that goes with it is in the hundreds of millions if not billions of dollars.

Would any serious business manager in any industry dismiss or ignore this scale of risk to their business? I don't think so.

Yup the solar minimum is changing the climate , and areas of the world like Asia have a massive pollution problem that needs to be addressed before they kill all the oceans . Remember a huge percentage of the worlds population gets their food directly from oceans .
With precision Ag , min till , their 4 engines , nitrogen stabilizers, most of us are doing far more here in western Canada already than almost anywhere in the world to reduce pollution.
Take this preaching to Russia , Mexico , anywhere in Africa , Ukraine , Brazil , Argentina, China India and Malaysia...... get them on the same page .
Chuck are you using all their 4 engines and Nitrogen stabilization? DML ?

[jazz]

If the horrible harvest weather that we have received in the last several seasons is the new "normal" because of climate change, then the the bill that goes with it is in the hundreds of millions if not billions of dollars.

Would any serious business manager in any industry dismiss or ignore this scale of risk to their business? I don't think so.

BS the growing season has not changed. First frost dates are same as they have been for as long as people have been farming here and those shoulder months are just as cold as they always have been.

How long you been farming for? Go find an old timer in the coffee shop and have a little chat instead of surfing the net. You might get your eyes opened.

JHC my dad has fought off every imaginable weather condition we have seen. He can quote a handful of yrs in the 50s and 60s and 80s to match anything we have seen.

When I am planting 2 crops a season, I will bow down at chucks altar.

[sumdumguy]

[QUOTE=jazz;430503]BS the growing season has not changed. First frost dates are same as they have been for as long as people have been farming here and those shoulder months are just as cold as they always have been.

How long you been farming for? Go find an old timer in the coffee shop and have a little chat instead of surfing the net. You might get your eyes opened.

JHC my dad has fought off every imaginable weather condition we have seen. He can quote a handful of yrs in the 50s and 60s and 80s to match anything we have seen.



EXACTAMONDO!

[Guest]

"the growing season is now three to five weeks longer than it was in 1950"

FFS, do you read this drivel before you post it at all ?????????????

[jazz]

And maybe the reason we are struggling with getting the crop off is we have about 90% less ****ing farmers trying to whip off 4 times the yeild just to stay afloat.

[farming101]

So it is wise to consult a climate scientist when deciding how to farm in Western Canada...
I eagerly await their latest advice on how to successfully farm around climate change

[chuckChuck]

Click on Growing Temperature on the Alberta climate map and you will see that the growing season is indeed longer now than it was in 1950. It varies from region to region. When I click on the map most places are in the 10-20 days longer range.

You will have to ask Stefan Kienzle from the University of Lethbridge how he came up with the 3-5 week longer growing season or whether Pilger misquoted him.

albertaclimaterecords.com/ http://albertaclimaterecords.com/