The fact the earth is that old means it was doing its thing long before we got here to supposedly influence its climate. Unless you’ve been reincarnated a billion times and have been burning fossil fuels before the dinosaurs I highly doubt we could have the same effect the sun has on the earths weather. No sun no weather. Period. This stupid conversation means nothing other than costs millions of innocent people money to fix a supposed problem we can’t fix. U wanna waste your time arguing about something u can fix? Figure out how to convince governments not to dump shit and garbage in our waterways.
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Originally posted by dmlfarmer View Postvery interesting, thanks. I do have one question. My grandfather began growing more wheat in the 30s also, but it was because of the introduction of Garnet which matured 10 days earlier than Marquis and would mature in cooler weather. (due to the crossing of Canadian wheats with varieties grown in Russia and Himalayas) When garnet was no longer eligible for top grades due to grading changes and demand for Garnet dried up so he had to switch to Thatcher which was back to a much longer season, he grew less. So I am wondering if it was only temperatures or also variety selection that allowed your grandparents to grow wheat in the 30s.
But when you review the temperature records, it does seem reasonable that they were able to grow longer season crops then, and not in the interim period.
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Originally posted by makar View PostGarnet was awesome wheat, blood red, so was 222, aka redbob.
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Originally posted by chuckChuck View PostUnder the Growing Temperature indexes the first and last day of the growing season are there. Along with growing degree days above 0 C, 5 C and 10 C.
So please explain how a farmer in the period of 1950 -2010 would have records to establish the growing season length, growing degree days, soil temperature, frost free periods etc?
Do you have those records on your own farm? I doubt it. And I don't know any farmer who has those detailed records.
So any farmer who claims that they know their growing season length is unchanged since 1950 has basically no records to backup their claim.
Why did you send your children to school if you don't believe in science,learning or academics?
Do you file your own corporate taxes? Do you do your own law? Do you do your own surgery and dentistry? Why not just ask the farmer down the road to do it for you if they know more than all the specialists in their field? LOL
Jazz you are out to lunch if you think humanity progressed without listening to scientists, academics and scholars. Perhaps that is why you think the way you do? LMAO
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Models can be tested against past observations to see if they are accurate and to improve their accuracy.
You don't need a model to measure past trends and draw conclusions about the past.
The trend of higher CO2 levels and higher average global temperatures is well document by several world class scientific organizations.
Name one major scientific organization that says human caused climate change and global warming is not occurring.
Denial activist sites don't count.
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Originally posted by chuckChuck View PostModels can be tested against past observations to see if they are accurate and to improve their accuracy.
You don't need a model to measure past trends and draw conclusions about the past.
The trend of higher CO2 levels and higher average global temperatures is well document by several world class scientific organizations.
Name one major scientific organization that says human caused climate change and global warming is not occurring.
Denial activist sites don't count.
How about activists are needed to wake NON reasoning sheep up? Activist have changed wrong thinking for hundreds of years.
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Originally posted by furrowtickler View PostAre these scientists, academics and scholars all part of the 11,000 clowns in the Mickey Mouse club ?? Just wondering is all
Just like Jazz, you love to make wide sweeping condemnation of scientists, economists etc.
When you say something like that you lose all credibility and nobody takes you seriously.
It's the return to the dark ages folks.Last edited by chuckChuck; Nov 8, 2019, 09:21.
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Originally posted by chuckChuck View PostDenial activist sites don't count.
What about the wealth distribution? Was that esteemed member of that notable organization IPCC lying?
Let me guess quote taken out of context. Your mind is cooked chuck. Fried in fact.
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