I just have to ask. Are the Grain companies playing games with wheat?

[farming101]

Likely need to find a friendly end user. Can't win with the elevator

[TASFarms]

Same in durum. Hvk in mid to low 90s with good bushel weight. Sold 10k bushels at harvest graded a 1. The rest of the field’s 4 other bins grade a 2 to 3. It’s like grade doesn’t matter, they only wanna pay $7.30 and no more

[helmsdale]

If the falling number is well over 300 there is no issue with sprouts....they need a grading class....

That's what I had been led to believe as well... If the sample has even just barely started the process of sprouting, an enzyme (can't remember the exact one) goes into overdrive converting starch into sugar. If that enzyme is high, falling number is correspondingly LOW. If that enzyme is low, falling number will be high, ergo the sprouting process has not commenced.

[Guest]

Fella today said he hauled malt barley
And germ was 98.5%, but alas , they said it was 8% chitted
Let that sink in ! How in **** is that possible????
Oh and guess what they deducted him $.40/bu for being chitted ?
Oh , and called the CGC , they said a 310 falling number with “severely sprouted” wheat is another physical impossibility, kinda like spotting a unicorn
So i said why dont you throw some samples in your car and take a road trip??
They apparently dont wanna do that?

[jazz]

Took a sample of red lentils in, nice looking all off before any wet weather. Should be a #1 easy. Nope there are a few kernels of durum in there that would be hard to clean and the end users dont like the extra glucose that adds to the sample, graded feed. My reply; F you. So people who dont make more than a couple bucks a day in India are that fussy about eating. I will seed the entire farm to lentils next yr before I let these go for pig feed

There is an active stategy to try and steal this crop while farmers heads are down. No terminals offer real help to try and move it. Waiting on trains everywhere. WTF is CP and CN doing?

[bucket]

Fella today said he hauled malt barley
And germ was 98.5%, but alas , they said it was 8% chitted
Let that sink in ! How in **** is that possible????
Oh and guess what they deducted him $.40/bu for being chitted ?
Oh , and called the CGC , they said a 310 falling number with “severely sprouted” wheat is another physical impossibility, kinda like spotting a unicorn
So i said why dont you throw some samples in your car and take a road trip??
They apparently dont wanna do that?

130 million dollar slush fund for a bunch of government incompetents.....and incompetence....

[sumdumguy]

Jazz, at almost every cleaning plant or mobile cleaner, they have standard indent cleaners. These cleaners separate grain by length. Your durum kernels must be longer than your lentils.

[jazz]

Jazz, at almost every cleaning plant or mobile cleaner, they have standard indent cleaners. These cleaners separate grain by length. Your durum kernels must be longer than your lentils.

Don't know, Have never had cereals in lentils before. I was too busy with my head in a bunch of damp canola to worry about it. Supposed to sample it again and see if its under 2%. I don't think our quick cleaner will take it out.

[Hamloc]

Was talking to one grain buyer today, looking at my wheat which is grading #1 or #2 depending on which bin and protein is just over 11% but here is the kicker, they quote their price for a #1 13. The deduction for protein is 6 cents for every .1 reduction in protein. Therefore 11% protein is a $1.20 reduction. But they also have 2 prices depending on falling number, over 290 is one price and under 290 has a reduced price. So number 1 wheat with low protein will be very close to $5, yikes certainly a kick in the teeth!

[seldomseen]

My wheat sample graded a 2 but then came back with a falling number of 251. So that is a No.2 price with a .70 discount according to the grain buyer i talked to.

[jazz]

Best thing you can do with any wheat right now is sit on it like guys did with the fusarium a few yrs ago until the terminal forgets about this yr.

[farmaholic]

Where the hell is that post that said the falling number test isn't "repeatable or subjective".

Problem is there are no set rules by the CGC, They still haven't "modernized" the grain Industry and are still holed up in their caves of prehistoric grain grading. Have they done anything to aide and facilitate openness and fairness since the advent of the "open" market?

Right now we're dealing and "negotiating" with "house rules".

There is no GrainCo uniformity in dealing with falling number results.

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